Porsche should be selling bumper cars
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Wouldn't want to cycle like a knobber.
400bhp
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No, I used to race and they were well known in racing circles as being widow makers. It was more the 911 turbo IIRC - just too much power for the average joe to handle.
Over The Hill
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I used to own a similar bike, in fact, here I am with it
I also used that bike for daily commuting 50 miles each way, down the motorway. I never broke the speed limits on it, nor did I use its performance inappropriately on the road. As I understand the risks of that attitude on a public road and the dangers. I enjoyed it's performance on the track. I couldn't afford 2 bikes at the time. These days I am fortunate enough to be able to afford multiple forms of transport and motorcycles are rarely used on the road.
I have grown up with motorsport and racing. I have raced (before smashing my arm to pieces), but that does not mean that I am irresponsible on the road. You could say I have "bought into the culture", but that does not correlate directly into being a dangerous road user.
You keep bringing it back to you but it is about drivers in general. In general drivers speeding is a big problem for many, causes accidents and death and is part of a speed culture on our roads. Not everyone buys into it but very many drivers do.
PhilDawson8270
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But when you start to outright ban and legislatevly (spelling?) performance vehicles, it is responsible enthusiasts, of which there are a few on here. Who are the ones "punished". The prats in performance vehicles, will still go on to be a danger to others just in slightly slower cars.
Over The Hill
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Very true. But you are then in to "gun lobby" territory in punishing all legitimate and careful gun users for the antics of a few nutters.
Society in the UK is quite happy to stop a million people owning a gun if it stops one nut case getting hold of a gun and blowing a room full of kids away. Society in the US seems to opt to let the million have a gun each and accept the odd massacre.
You have to jump one way or the other - you seem to have jumped to the side accepting the massacre.
I agree the prats will still be there but over time the culture of cars would change and their outlook would change.
PhilDawson8270
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However, all guns aren't banned. Simply under strict licensing regulations. Maybe a stepped test for access to higher performance vehicles?
You can also compare USA to Czech Republic. Public in Czech Republic have the right to carry guns, and allowed to do so in public too. Yet a smaller % of people actually own them, and there appears to be very few high school massacres there too.
So again, I think this points towards to the major difference in being public attitude. I'm a fan of education rather than legislation. How you educate idiots, is the bit I am yet to work out. But this does not mean I support excessive legislation.
It's probably breaking forum rules aplenty, but I'm selling this if anyone's interested....
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201508146062599
I'm very flexible on price as it's been up a while. It's lovely, but I want to spend my cash on other things, one of which is a new vanity bike. I'm almost certainly a nobber.
PhilDawson8270
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How many people have you killed in it before buying?
I couldn't afford the petrol,mate.
Only of boredom, Phil, only of boredom.
Not as bad as you'd think. A long drive with a light touch on the loud pedal and you can easily hit the low 30s for mpg. It's the base Cayman, not a 911 turbo! My 1.2 Petrol qashqai will just about scrape 40+ for similar journeys.
Piemaster
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S'alright. But for that money I could get something nice.
And a bike wouldn't fit.
gavroche
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[QUOTE 4025229, member: 9609"]I hope he succeeds and I hope the longer term outcome will be to prevent such vehicles being allowed on the highway. There is no place in modern day society for cars that can exceed 80mph or accelerate to that speed in a few seconds.[/QUOTE]
There is no place in our society for super light carbon racing bikes, with skinny tyres that can do 60mph down a steep mountain road with just a crash helmet for protection.
There is no place in our society for super light carbon racing bikes, with skinny tyres that can do 60mph down a steep mountain road with just a crash helmet for protection.
There is no place in our society for super light carbon racing bikes, with skinny tyres that can do 60mph down a steep mountain road with just a crash helmet for protection.
A what? Not familiar with those
