Prius: the world's most environmentally disastrous car

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swee'pea99

Squire
Ok, here's the theory...(based, as are most of my theories, on nothing beyond instinct, prejudice, and a profound ignorance of the facts):

Most of a car's overall environmental impact is determined by its lifespan: the environmental damage involved in its manufacture and post-mortem means that longevity is key to its overall, total, environmental impact.

So, after ten years, your Prius battery dies. Are you going to spend more than the car's worth to replace it? No. So the car will become worthless overnight. Priuses, in short, will last only as long as their batteries: about a decade. Whereas most ordinary cars remain economically viable (and so will carry on being used) much longer than that.

So Priuses are, from an environmental point of view, a disaster.

Or are they?
 

threebikesmcginty

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Say no more...

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[QUOTE 2773778, member: 45"]How has ten years of the Paris helped the overall development of the electric car?[/quote]
Hard to say looking at the EV's currently available as they really don't seem to demonstrate ten years of development IMO.

EV's aren't the future, hydrogen is, simple*.

*well clearly not simple or we'd all be driving under hydrogen propulsion,but batteries aren't the answer that's for sure.
 
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User6179

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If the electricity that powers the Prius comes from coal then why bother or is it better to run your car on coal than petrol, if so then we should maybe start making steam powered cars, am sure Sting would buy one.:thumbsup:
 

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Linford

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[QUOTE 2773778, member: 45"]Bigger picture.....

How has ten years of the Paris helped the overall development of the electric car?[/quote]

I never thought that Paris was a particularly green city :wacko:
 

subaqua

What’s the point
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from my limited viewpoint of the city ten the pious ( sic) hasn't really done much for electric vehicles. the IET only released a guide for EV charging points last year . maybe another 10 yrs
 

marknotgeorge

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Derby.
British Prius drivers are the real nobbers, at least in the last few years. Why buy a hybrid car shipped over from Japan when the same manufacturer makes a hybrid car just off the A38?
 

P.H

Über Member
Ok, here's the theory...(based, as are most of my theories, on nothing beyond instinct, prejudice, and a profound ignorance of the facts):

Most of a car's overall environmental impact is determined by its lifespan: the environmental damage involved in its manufacture and post-mortem means that longevity is key to its overall, total, environmental impact.

So, after ten years, your Prius battery dies. Are you going to spend more than the car's worth to replace it? No. So the car will become worthless overnight. Priuses, in short, will last only as long as their batteries: about a decade. Whereas most ordinary cars remain economically viable (and so will carry on being used) much longer than that.

So Priuses are, from an environmental point of view, a disaster.

Or are they?
It's hard to know where to start.
Toyota say the battery should last the lifetime of the car, 15 years.
The average life of a car in the UK is 13.5 years.
Toyota subsidised 600 of the first models to be taxis, each of which has exceeded 300,000 miles without needing the battery replaced.
The cost of having a battery rebuilt is comparable to having a diesel engine reconditioned.
Your theory is bunkum.

I'm not a fan of the Prius, I'm not a fan of the idea that every household needs any motor vehicle. What it has done is demonstrate to the whole of the motor industry that people will buy on a different criteria to what was the norm. That can only be a good thing can't it?
 

P.H

Über Member
Why buy a hybrid car shipped over from Japan when the same manufacturer makes a hybrid car just off the A38?
Do you think they'd be making that (I suspect assembling is a more accurate description) if it hadn't been for the success of the Prius?
 
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