pally83
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Exactly! Much better than that Kill Bill nonsense.
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Exactly! Much better than that Kill Bill nonsense.
derrick
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Pulp fiction here.
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Was that deliberate?
MontyVeda
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it is a film and not a documentary... why should it provide an accurate/honest portrayal of history?
This reminds of a comment i read regarding Inglorious Basterds... "Pah, Tarrantino trying to rewrite history... Hitler didn't die like that HE SHOT HIMSELF!"
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You are getting completely the wrong end of the stick. I said that Django, which is a complete fiction, is more honest than Lincoln, which makes more claims to be 'historical'. It was not about 'historical facts', it was about how we use history as a resource in contemporary politics.
To explain further. The history of slavery and its legacy remains a very real issue in the USA. Whether a cultural product is non-fiction or fiction, if it deals with this issue, it is inevitably political. These politics are more about what is missing or deliberately left out - i.e. whether there is a kind of historical good faith. Django gets straight in there: racism, slavery - it's all up front, and from this basis of openness about the horror of US history, the film moves off in a fantastic direction (this BTW is exactly what Tarrantino was also trying to do with Inglorious Basterds and the history of WW2 - but it just wasn't a very good film). Lincoln on the other hand tries to look historical, it is serious and weighty and almost pretends to be history come to life, however its politics are to minimize the racism of the white establishment of Lincoln's day, including Lincoln himself - largely because Lincoln is such a mythically good figure in mainstream US culture.
MontyVeda
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I think you take 'historical drama' way too seriously.
Flying_Monkey
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I take it seriously, and I enjoy it too. This means I get more out of it, not less.
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Just watched Django Unchained. Don't know what to make of it TBH. OTOH, the trailer for Lincoln looked good, at least Daniel Day Lewis did, but when doesn't he?
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I have seen the film and thought i was excellent, dark when it needed to be and very funny when it allowed.
The KKK scene was a classic.
Pulp fiction for me is the best, for me it does not lack in any department, I also like dawn to dusk mainly because if your not aware of what happens it throws such a great curve ball.
As mentioned True Romance for the dialogue
The KKK scene was a classic.
Pulp fiction for me is the best, for me it does not lack in any department, I also like dawn to dusk mainly because if your not aware of what happens it throws such a great curve ball.
As mentioned True Romance for the dialogue
AndyRM
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Django Unchained is an absolute belter. Saw it with a pal last Saturday, going with my wife at the weekend. Looking forward to it already!
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Nooo, you gave away the ending! I loved that ending, it was a total surprise.
That the subtlety has gone, along with the wit, to be replaced by increasingly graphic violence. He has sold out to the mainstream Hollywood audience of 16-25 year old males, who like shooty shouty splatter-fests. His last worthwhile film was Pulp Fiction. Kill Bill sums Tarantino and Hollywood up for me - the studios see the success of Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon and offer us a Humvee version which should have gone straight to DVD.
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I felt the same when I watched 'Gandhi' - I got absorbed in the film and forgot that he gets shot, sorry if that's ruined that film for anyone.
I think Tarrantino is an up-himself tosser (he speaks well of me too apparently) and his films are complete pish... but I'm only saying that because I've had a couple of glasses of wine. Sober, I'd say much the same thing but in a much more nuanced and balanced way.
Jackie Brown is easily my fave. Whilst Pulp Fiction, and Reservoir Dogs to a lesser extent, are icons/landmarks of modern cinema (and I do accept that) I personally wouldn't regard them as great films. Stylish, distinctive and with reference points a plenty but, in and of themselves, not great films. Kill Bills just look an exercise in excess.
I'll give Django a chance (in a couple of years time probably) but I've no sense of urgency about it at this point.
Generally speaking, I find his films too self-aware (you may like that, I find it disruptive) but maybe I just don't get him.
Jackie Brown is easily my fave. Whilst Pulp Fiction, and Reservoir Dogs to a lesser extent, are icons/landmarks of modern cinema (and I do accept that) I personally wouldn't regard them as great films. Stylish, distinctive and with reference points a plenty but, in and of themselves, not great films. Kill Bills just look an exercise in excess.
I'll give Django a chance (in a couple of years time probably) but I've no sense of urgency about it at this point.
Generally speaking, I find his films too self-aware (you may like that, I find it disruptive) but maybe I just don't get him.
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