Quick, advice needed on possible teacher mistake

[classic33]

Why does boiling hot water freeze quicker than room temp water?

The one I set leads back here.

 

[ufkacbln]

No matter what the Teacher asks, there will be a set answer on the internet

However most teachers know this.

The trick is to recognise those who are simply Googling then cutting and pasting Wikipedia and those who have actually thought aboutthe homework, have several sources and have shown a higher level of undesrtanding because of this.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

[QUOTE 3315243, member: 45"]You can get the answers to any school questions on the Internet..[/QUOTE]
TLH frequently googles whole chunks of the essays submitted to her electronically and then busts the little miscreants asses for being lousy plagiarists.

PS most homework is for the benefit of the parents not the children.

 

[User6179]

Don't tell anybody but I found these , Unbelievable !!

 

[User169]

I made her do the homework due in tomorrow. I'm not questioning the need for homework, I am questioning the need for her to do homework where everyone else has cheated to find the answers. I would rather she have different homework not taken off the internet.

Sorry if I've missed it, but why do you assume everyone else has cheated?

 

[KneesUp]

Sorry if I've missed it, but why do you assume everyone else has cheated?

An excellent question - we only know of one person who has googled the answers

 

[subaqua]

This worries me, why would schools not have CDs to print worksheets off or books to photocopy?

yeah because it isn't that difficult or expensive to create and send out CDs to how many registered teachers ? and the media on them will never get plomked on the internet at all will it.

photocopying from books is not always as easy as you like to think and can fall foul of copyright.

Newham have a learning network intranet as do Waltham Forest that my daughter and wife access as pupil and teacher respectively for learning resources.

you are making a fuss over nothing.

 

[Dan B]

And then the kids who can't really do the work will struggle at school, or get found out.

Those are the kids who grow up to be management consultants

[edit: or "industry analysts". I forgot the "industry analysts". An entire career path based on copying stuff you don't understand and passing it off as your own work]

Still not clear on how that affects your child.

If in later life her employers decide to get some management consultancy ...

 

[GrumpyGregry]

[QUOTE 3315657, member: 45"]Does she not use turnitin?[/QUOTE]
Officially discouraged as I understand it.

 

[subaqua]

Have you seen the price of resource CDs and their annual license fees? Photocopying is not a low cost option. If your daughter is ten years old then she will be in a primary school whose budget is stretched with core provisions never mind paying exorbitant licensing fees for resource CDs which have the self same questions that are available for free of the Internet.

It's great that you made your daughter do the homework without the answer sheets at her disposal and I'd not lose sleep over those whose access to the 'easy option' ins unfettered. They will reap the rewards of their idleness in examinations where there no answer sheets to copy from.

Comparing past and present practises is futile. Kids are living in an information age and it's normal for kids to look for answers on the Internet when doing homework. The answers to maths problems rarely show how they are achieved and it would show up in the submitted work through lack of evidence of any working out.

Furthermore the bulk of learning and assessment takes place under teacher scrutiny in the classroom and homeworks tend to be reinforcement exercises.

I really don't see any grounds for getting annoyed.

the website here needs fixing as I can only like this post one time. it needs more likes

 

[Learnincurve]

Actually you are allowed to photocopy anything you like from publications if it's for a primary/secondary school for free as the copyright laws don't apply. It's a stupid rule but you can make 10 copies of a page per book so if you have 30 kids in the class then you should legally own 3 copies of the book. Photographs you (people in education at any level) can hand out and copy all you like provided you don't make a profit - it can go on a free work sheet but you would have to pay for it to go in a educational book you were selling.

 

[Spinney]

Actually you are allowed to photocopy anything you like from publications if it's for a primary/secondary school for free as the copyright laws don't apply. It's a stupid rule but you can make 10 copies of a page per book so if you have 30 kids in the class then you should legally own 3 copies of the book. Photographs you (people in education at any level) can hand out and copy all you like provided you don't make a profit - it can go on a free work sheet but you would have to pay for it to go in a educational book you were selling.

To what photographs are you referring?
I suspect you may not have the copyright laws completely correct...

 

[GrumpyGregry]

[QUOTE 3315683, member: 45"]That's good to know. I might start cutting and pasting for my diploma again then.[/QUOTE]
Only if TLH's school is the institution!

 

[Spinney]

@Learnincurve
This is not quite what you said above - you cannot copy a whole textbook.
(from http://www.copyrightandschools.org/)

and this on images:

These are the copyright laws, and they do apply in schools and everywhere else.

Also, see this page: http://schools.cla.co.uk/copyright-resources-for-schools/how-to-avoid-infringing-copyright/

The CLA licence is a way of estimating how many pages from which publications schools have copied - there is a pot of money that is dealt out to authors and publishers twice a year to recompense them from lost sales due to this copying. So even the 'free' copying is not really free.

 

[MartinQ]

Don't tell anybody but I found these , Unbelievable !!
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Why post a table of
exp(ln(a)+ln(b))
who'd use that