Quick releases, lawyers lips & the great British Public.

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PK99

Legendary Member
Location
SW19
On a ride I was leading yesterday......

I hear an insistent beep...beep...beep from behind the group. Eventually I pull over to let the impatient twot past. Nice lady informs me that guy riding near the back has "...collapsed...". Use of horn had been to attract our attention.

Ride back, to find numerous vehicles stopped and bloodied rider inthe recovery position with 2 members of public (passing drivers) tending to him, one turns out to be a local gp. Looks to have nasty head injury with copious quantities of blood. One driver has already phoned 999 and ambulance is on its way. Mini bus driver produces bumper medical kit, which gp puts to good use. Other driver is directing traffic around the incident. All passing drivers negotiate the incident with due care and no complaint. Mini bus driver produces box of choc-ices and hands them round. Lady whose house we are outside, offers to take bike in for safe keeping and drive it round to rider's house later in the day. Shop keepers etc come out offering assistance.

Ambulance arrives, by which time rider is compos mentis enough to walk into ambulance, carted off to hospital. Discharged later in day and apart from bumps and scrapes and lost skin is ok.

Cause? Front quick release was not done up tight enough. When wheel hit road hump it twisted out of the fork, jammed against the brake, stopped instantly and ejected rider over the bars ejector seat like and he landed on the road head first. Bike is classic steel frame/fork, predating lawyers lips.

Rider was only one in group not wearing helmet, fortunately hit the flat of the road not the kerb. Accident was classic 10-12 mph, no vehicle involved event that helmets are designed for.

Be careful out there folks, and don't forget those pre ride safety checks we all know about but rarely do.....

Response of all the drivers helping or passing with care was exemplary.
 

Velo711

Well-Known Member
Location
Ontario, Canada
Kudos to all those people who helped. I'm cautious about commenting on the helmet thing though.
 

annedonnelly

Girl from the North Country
Location
Canonbie
Great that so many people stopped to help. Must be scary for you as the leader of the group - no-one wants an emergency when they're in charge!
A bit odd that no-one else in your group noticed his absence - if I was riding in a group I'd hope that everyone was looking out for everyone else.
 

ianrauk

Tattooed Beat Messiah
Location
Rides Ti2
Blimey. Not nice.

Though I would have thought everyone gave their bike a quick check before heading out. Seem's common sense to me.
 

I like Skol

A Minging Manc...
I'm cautious about commenting on the helmet thing though.
And rightly so!

I'm glad the rider is ok and on the mend now. If there is one thing the injured rider should take away from all this (other than a few scars) it's that maybe more care is required in preparing and checking his bike.

Just out of interest, what kind of Q/R was it. I stick with standard Shimano items these days as they have a positive over-cam locking action that I trust. Back in the early 90's when an array of colourful anodised weight-weiny Q/Rs were on the market I tried a few and always found them lacking in feel and couldn't trust them to gat enough tension and stay positively shut. I carry this scepticism of many aftermarket parts to this day.
 

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
Just out of interest, what kind of Q/R was it. I stick with standard Shimano items these days as they have a positive over-cam locking action that I trust. Back in the early 90's when an array of colourful anodised weight-weiny Q/Rs were on the market I tried a few and always found them lacking in feel and couldn't trust them to gat enough tension and stay positively shut.
I know a very experienced cyclist who set off on a local audax with her b/f and soon started having problems with her rear wheel pulling over. She had fitted a pair of bling Ti QRs. Both riders had a go at tightening the QRs but they could not stop the wheel shifting under load so they turned round and went back. Replacing the QRs with normal Shimano ones when they got home completely eliminated the problem.
 

ianrauk

Tattooed Beat Messiah
Location
Rides Ti2
I know a very experienced cyclist who set off on a local audax with her b/f and soon started having problems with her rear wheel pulling over. She had fitted a pair of bling Ti QRs. Both riders had a go at tightening the QRs but they could not stop the wheel shifting under load so they turned round and went back. Replacing the QRs with normal Shimano ones when they got home completely eliminated the problem.



I have a pair of 'bling' Ti levers and have never had this problem.
 

Howard

Senior Member
I know a very experienced cyclist who set off on a local audax with her b/f and soon started having problems with her rear wheel pulling over. She had fitted a pair of bling Ti QRs. Both riders had a go at tightening the QRs but they could not stop the wheel shifting under load so they turned round and went back. Replacing the QRs with normal Shimano ones when they got home completely eliminated the problem.

I have a pair of 'bling' Ti levers and have never had this problem.

Depends on

a) the material your drop-out is made of
b) the grippyness of the axle lock-nut serrated surface

There are bad combinations, i.e. lock-nut with a poor serrated surface, particularly hard drop-out material, weak QR skewer.

Having horizontal drop-outs doesn't help, either.
 

ianrauk

Tattooed Beat Messiah
Location
Rides Ti2
Depends on

a) the material your drop-out is made of
b) the grippyness of the axle lock-nut serrated surface

There are bad combinations, i.e. lock-nut with a poor serrated surface, particularly hard drop-out material, weak QR skewer.

Having horizontal drop-outs doesn't help, either.


Agreed, I have Ti levers on Ti dropouts.
 
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PK99

Legendary Member
Location
SW19
Great that so many people stopped to help. Must be scary for you as the leader of the group - no-one wants an emergency when they're in charge!
A bit odd that no-one else in your group noticed his absence - if I was riding in a group I'd hope that everyone was looking out for everyone else.

He was next to last in line, last man ran into him then shouted but over the traffic noise no one heard. I was 100/150m up the road.
 

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
I have a pair of 'bling' Ti levers and have never had this problem.
She had the "can't get tight enough" type of bling! Looking good is not a problem if the QR works properly, but the QR in question looked good and did not work properly.

I had a problem with a Mavic QR which I struggled to get tight enough. I usually stick to standard Shimano or Campagnolo QRs these days.
 

ianrauk

Tattooed Beat Messiah
Location
Rides Ti2
She had the "can't get tight enough" type of bling! Looking good is not a problem if the QR works properly, but the QR in question looked good and did not work properly.

I had a problem with a Mavic QR which I struggled to get tight enough. I usually stick to standard Shimano or Campagnolo QRs these days.



Funny thing is I did have a problem with a Shimano QR lever a while back.
 
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