Recognised dog breed crosses, there are some weird and strange ones (to me).

[Mad Doug Biker]

That can be the case, but its not quite that simple.

Firstly, people get show lines confused with general breed lines or working lines. Theyre totally different.

Show stock can have some profoundly unpleasant characteristics bred into the in the name of appearance. Regular pedigree lines do not - they are bred for utility and the limes controlled to minimise genetic health issues.

Also, as aforementioned, with a pedigree you can research back the generations and make a reasonably informed prediction about what you're getting. Its not an ironclad guaranteed, but its massively better rodds than mongrels with undocumented and uncontrolled bloodlines. Some extremely unpleasant characters arise with some of these mixes that make the problems with some pedigree show lines seem tame in comparison.

I said 'many', not all pedigrees.

In fact, coming to think about it, I have only actually heard of problems with certain breeds like Alsatians (hip displacement), Boxers (fits), etc.

We had a Pedigree Stafford (rescue) who had skin issues, but seemingly that is common in Staffies regardless of provenance.

As for Mongrels, I have not really heard of problems, but I guess it is a lucky dip with anything unknown like that.

Please tell me of the problems with cross - breeds.

 

[Venod]

Daughter has a Cockerpoo, its a full size Poodle cross, he has massive paws, daft as a brush but intelligent too.

 

[Reynard]

FWIW, I am aware that the Labradoodle (I think anyway), is hypoallergenic (or so people say anyway), which makes them popular.

They're not hypoallergenic. They just don't tend to shed naturally, which is completely different.

What that means, is that these dogs require almost daily grooming to remove loose hairs and stop their coats from matting. And regular haircuts to also help keep on top of the grooming. The problem is compounded if the coat gets wet.

There's an article / interview somewhere on the BBC website with the bloke who first developed the labrador-poodle cross as a "breed", and he says he now wishes he'd never done it.

 

[nogoodnamesleft]

These days I had Border Collies (straightforward breed) but when I was a child we had a couple of "Essex terriers" which was a posh name of a miscellaneous cross breed.

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

They're not hypoallergenic. They just don't tend to shed naturally, which is completely different.

What that means, is that these dogs require almost daily grooming to remove loose hairs and stop their coats from matting. And regular haircuts to also help keep on top of the grooming. The problem is compounded if the coat gets wet.

There's an article / interview somewhere on the BBC website with the bloke who first developed the labrador-poodle cross as a "breed", and he says he now wishes he'd never done it.

Thanks, I did say "Or so people say anyway".

I have no real experience of the things and don't want to, given the silly name!😆

 

[Drago]

I said 'many', not all pedigrees.

In fact, coming to think about it, I have only actually heard of problems with certain breeds like Alsatians (hip displacement), Boxers (fits), etc.

Again, those problems tend to occur in lines that have been bred for show work or descended from such lines. Working lines are bred for their utility and robustness.

It's the same with my beloved Labs. English or show lines can have a propensity to hip or elbow displacia, bred as the were for a certain silhouette and stance. American or working lines (essentially gun dogs) are bred for intelligence and to work hard, and often fast, with and are consequently a different shape and build and far less prone to such issues.

The interesting thing with Labs is that the working lines themselves have become very popular as show dogs, so the English lab is on the wane in popularity somewhat. Both of my two are grandsons of a Crufts finalist who was originally bred as a gundog.

And so it is with the various shepherd breeds. I've worked around police shepherds a lot, even dated a dog handler, and those working lines don't suffer like those awful lines bred for the show ring do.

Boxers are a bit of a muddier case in point. Originally bred from mastiffs of some sort the show lines came to dominate 40 or 50 years ago, and today we see the consequences of that.

In all these cases a knowledgeable doggy type can research the lineage and make their own determination. I was able to check hip, joint and eye scores for all my boy's ancestors going back 5 generations before I even left the house to meet the puppies. With mongrels thats simply not possible - you have no control whatsoever over what you end up with.

 

[Webbo2]

Again, those problems tend to occur in lines that have been bred for show work or descended from such lines. Working lines are bred for their utility and robustness.

It's the same with my beloved Labs. English or show lines can have a propensity to hip or elbow displacia, bred as the were for a certain silhouette and stance. American or working lines (essentially gun dogs) are bred for intelligence and to work hard, and often fast, with and are consequently a different shape and build and far less prone to such issues.

The interesting thing with Labs is that the working lines themselves have become very popular as show dogs, so the English lab is on the wane in popularity somewhat. Both of my two are grandsons of a Crufts finalist who was originally bred as a gundog.

And so it is with the various shepherd breeds. I've worked around police shepherds a lot, even dated a dog handler, and those working lines don't suffer like those awful lines bred for the show ring do.

Boxers are a bit of a muddier case in point. Originally bred from mastiffs of some sort the show lines came to dominate 40 or 50 years ago, and today we see the consequences of that.

In all these cases a knowledgeable doggy type can research the lineage and make their own determination. I was able to check hip, joint and eye scores for all my boy's ancestors going back 5 generations before I even left the house to meet the puppies. With mongrels thats simply not possible - you have no control whatsoever over what you end up with.

Do you anything about in bred Psychosis in Cocker Spaniels from the Cockermouth area.😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

Again, those problems tend to occur in lines that have been bred for show work or descended from such lines. Working lines are bred for their utility and robustness.

It's the same with my beloved Labs. English or show lines can have a propensity to hip or elbow displacia, bred as the were for a certain silhouette and stance. American or working lines (essentially gun dogs) are bred for intelligence and to work hard, and often fast, with and are consequently a different shape and build and far less prone to such issues.

The interesting thing with Labs is that the working lines themselves have become very popular as show dogs, so the English lab is on the wane in popularity somewhat. Both of my two are grandsons of a Crufts finalist who was originally bred as a gundog.

And so it is with the various shepherd breeds. I've worked around police shepherds a lot, even dated a dog handler, and those working lines don't suffer like those awful lines bred for the show ring do.

Boxers are a bit of a muddier case in point. Originally bred from mastiffs of some sort the show lines came to dominate 40 or 50 years ago, and today we see the consequences of that.

In all these cases a knowledgeable doggy type can research the lineage and make their own determination. I was able to check hip, joint and eye scores for all my boy's ancestors going back 5 generations before I even left the house to meet the puppies. With mongrels thats simply not possible - you have no control whatsoever over what you end up with.

The ones that get me are things like Bulldogs and pugs, these flat nosed breeds who seem to spend their entire lives with breathing issues.

Why would you think that that is sensible? Why, WHY!!

Oh and Pugs are as ugly as sin anyway, sorry, but they are, there, said it!

 

[Webbo2]

The ones that get me are things like Bulldogs and pugs, these flat nosed breeds who seem to spend their entire lives with breathing issues.

Why would you think that that is sensible? Why, WHY!!

Oh and Pugs are as ugly as sin anyway, sorry, but they are, there, said it!

And there are those owners who look like their dogs.😳