Referendum petition

[Deleted member 26715]

Not sure anything as been removed, well according to the website, when I looked earlier, it was 3,1xx,xxx now it is 3,356,439

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

Have we left yet?

 

[fossyant]

Have we left yet?

Dunno, Shall we have a petition about that ?

 

[phil_hg_uk]

Have we left yet?

There is no one available to tell us at the moment they all seem to have either disappeared or quit, I am sure when someone has finished cobbling together a plan of whats next they will be along to let us all know ....... or not !!!!!

 

[shouldbeinbed]

Has it been mentioned that this petition was started by an ardent leave campaigner with links to the English Democrats political group before the referendum when he thought remain was going to prevail and wanted to hamper their victory parade.

Seems he's a tad miffed that it has been taken up by disgruntled remainers.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ferendum-latest-news-vote-leave-a7104076.html

Or has that been debunked since this morning?

 

[Crackle]

And unless the governments of those countries and the EU begin to address the concerns of large sections of their populations those unpleasant extremists are going to benefit when people think they are the only ones listening to them. Learn from Northern Ireland where the British government and Stormont did just that to one third of the population, leading to the resurgence of the IRA and decades of chaos and terrorism.

I'm not sure about that. There's a perfect storm for them to thrive in at the moment. As long as the Middle East remains unstable, Isis poses a credible terrorist threat and economies are slow they'll thrive. When the world feels more secure they won't. I'm not sure the inherent problems of the EU are the key reason, they're just a symptom.

 

[PaulB]

While the Alan Partridge tribute act is happy to accept 'victory', he actually stated - publicly so no going back on this for the slimy greaseball - that if the 'Out' vote polled 40% or more on Thursday, he'd go for a second try at the referendum So he'll have to keep schtum about this, won't he?

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

Next General Election isn't due till 2020 so as you say, he had plenty of time for it within his election term.
Given the that there was more older voters voting exit, couple of years for a few more of them to pop their clogs (death rate is around 1/2 million per annum) may have swung the vote the other way.

And during that time younger people won't get older?

 

[oldfatfool]

And during that time younger people won't get older?

Don't think they would change their vote because they had gone from 67 to 69 do you?

What as happened is the leave campaign revolved around 2 issues 350m a week (or a new hospital, probably one in every town) and immigration.Since the vote the leave campaign as agreed that the 350m a week isn',t and what it is, won't go on the nhs in anycase, and that immigration could rise as they might equalise immigration from outside the eu with those within the eu.

Most of this seems to have gone over many leave voters heads as they are still waiting for buses to turn up with a one way seat to the nearest port for their neighbors.

Those that have woken up and smelled the coffee have realised that politicians lie and have lied just to further their own political agenda as opposed to giving two shoots about what the public were voting for. I would guess if there was a way of getting just the leave voters to revote then many would now vote to remain, I think many thought they were just sticking two fingers up at the establishment, many thought heallthcare would improve, and worryingly many expected all the migrant workers currently in our country would be out of work on Monday.

 

[User10119]

Has it been mentioned that this petition was started by an ardent leave campaigner with links to the English Democrats political group before the referendum when he thought remain was going to prevail and wanted to hamper their victory parade.

Seems he's a tad miffed that it has been taken up by disgruntled remainers.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ferendum-latest-news-vote-leave-a7104076.html

Or has that been debunked since this morning?

Yes, it has been mentioned
[QUOTE 4339093, member: 10119"]http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...ferendum-petition_uk_576f8b28e4b0232d331e1b39



Gosh. Someone else who didn't actually get what they wanted when they asked for it...[/QUOTE]

 

[shouldbeinbed]

And during that time younger people won't get older?

my 16 & 17 yo's, all of their friends and overwhelming peer opinion when discussed in their schools (inner Oldham, very multi racial and not leafy lane wealthy) were for remain but too young this time round to participate, all are particularly miffed that the Scottish indy ref allowed younger voters to have their say on such a momentous decision.
I think those 16-18s would have bucked the relative apathy trend of the under 25 demographic, whether enough to change the outcome is debateable but I wonder what they will feel come 2020 about the leading party that (YKWIM) have disenfranchised them now.

In fairness to those berating the older end for voting out vs the young voting in, the older end came out in far greater proportion to exercise their right.

 

[shouldbeinbed]

[QUOTE 4340003, member: 10119"]Yes, it has been mentioned [/QUOTE]
Cap doffed, TMN to you

 

[classic33]

Don't think they would change their vote because they had gone from 67 to 69 do you?

What as happened is the leave campaign revolved around 2 issues 350m a week (or a new hospital, probably one in every town) and immigration.Since the vote the leave campaign as agreed that the 350m a week isn',t and what it is, won't go on the nhs in anycase, and that immigration could rise as they might equalise immigration from outside the eu with those within the eu.

Most of this seems to have gone over many leave voters heads as they are still waiting for buses to turn up with a one way seat to the nearest port for their neighbors.

Those that have woken up and smelled the coffee have realised that politicians lie and have lied just to further their own political agenda as opposed to giving two shoots about what the public were voting for. I would guess if there was a way of getting just the leave voters to revote then many would now vote to remain, I think many thought they were just sticking two fingers up at the establishment, many thought heallthcare would improve, and worryingly many expected all the migrant workers currently in our country would be out of work on Monday.

I'm a tea drinker missen, but have got used to the fact that politicians lie to further their own careers/agenda. The system is rotten from the bottom upwards. You get one that's willing to actually stand by what they said, you'll notice they don't last long. As for the migrant workers, take a look at the transport networks within the UK. From the canals to the motorways, all have relied on migrant labour to be completed. So nowt new there.
Healthcare, I never expected to improve overnight. Local hospitals are being downgraded, with some losing services. Doctors have been leaving over the last three years, not just the last three days.

Three people, I've seen before, were working on both sides locally. Promoting Leave in one place, Remain in another. All three were from the same party.

 

[Piemaster]

And during that time younger people won't get older?

Yup they will. My daughter would then be eligible to vote, which would be remain. Maybe younger voters just feel more european as they've never known anything else and they don't have a pre-EU personal experience to compare it too.
I know both mine and my wifes parents were 'leave'. I'll put this on a local level for my area - they feel that there are jobs their grandchildren could have are being taken by migrants (whether thats true or not), whereas I feel that without the investment european companies are bringing to the area there would be a lot less jobs anyway.