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Gravity Aided

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Guns of August, by Barbara Tuchman, delves very deeply into causes, and shows how, after the 1890's, there was more than likely going to be a world conflict.
Old book, but worth a read.
 

Gravity Aided

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I would be interested to know how other countries in Europe are marking the occasion. Less, would be my guess.

The wall to wall coverage seems to me all of a piece with this country's resolute determination to constantly hark back to, almost to inhabit, some supposedly - I was going to say 'wonderful', but I suspect the more appropriate word is significant - past. Ever looking back, to when 'we' (whatever that means) supposedly 'mattered'...
I believe French Churches rang their bells August 1st, as they did in 1914 for the General Mobilization
 

slowmotion

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I would be interested to know how other countries in Europe are marking the occasion. Less, would be my guess.

The wall to wall coverage seems to me all of a piece with this country's resolute determination to constantly hark back to, almost to inhabit, some supposedly - I was going to say 'wonderful', but I suspect the more appropriate word is significant - past. Ever looking back, to when 'we' (whatever that means) supposedly 'mattered'...
Go to Oradour-sur-Glane on Bastille Day. The EU spirit is not exactly in evidence. The past does matter to most people. It isn't just erased by a Delete command on a keyboard.
 

byegad

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NE England
My family were lucky, both of my Grandfathers came home from WWI. But many families lost a lot and I feel the current remembrance is justified. Sadly the Great War wasn't the war to end all wars.
 

swee'pea99

Squire
Go to Oradour-sur-Glane on Bastille Day. The EU spirit is not exactly in evidence. The past does matter to most people. It isn't just erased by a Delete command on a keyboard.
I'm sure. And I'm sure it would be remembered with an appropriate degree and kind of recognition - as it should be. We ought, certainly, to remember, and never forget. My reservations are about wallowing, and what it says about us and the way we look at the world.
 
And none in Scotland or Ireland! No - it's not just your map; it's here too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thankful_Villages
THanks. List there was updated in October last year, after I'd started my map. I'll have to re-visit it and update sometime. The linked BBC article was worth reading.
It came about from a cycle ride I did last year,no particular route planned, just a general idea. Just seemed that every village I went through had memorial. It highlighted to me how many were affected by losses, a few names, some with the same surname, on a memorial in a tiny village is more a scale I can think about. A million seems harder to mentally picture.
 
I would be interested to know how other countries in Europe are marking the occasion. Less, would be my guess.

The wall to wall coverage seems to me all of a piece with this country's resolute determination to constantly hark back to, almost to inhabit, some supposedly - I was going to say 'wonderful', but I suspect the more appropriate word is significant - past. Ever looking back, to when 'we' (whatever that means) supposedly 'mattered'...

We seem to be good at putting on a bit of a show for this sort of thing and wheeling out a Royal to attend to give them something to do.
We have remembrance marking the end of the war but it seems a bit of an odd thing and I am not sure what the thinking is to remember the start of the war. I watched a bit on the news last night and was none the wiser. Some religious bod said it was for us to repent. I really did not feel I wanted to join in and really did not see what it was for.

It did seem rather odd for this to be seen as a lesson we have learned from the past with the same news programme then switching to a present day situation with two rows of people lobbing bombs at each other.
 
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