Route Planner

[Petrichorwheels]

I don't use Strava for planning routes. I figure that most Strava users are roadies and their routes may not be my kind of routes.
I do use Strava to keep a record of my rides.

But to slag off unknown people and members of the forum as "sheep on wheels" within 15 posts is a tad provocative.

CycleTravel for me is the best route planner, home and away. There's loads of features that make it especially suitable for touring and it is being enhanced monthly.
Unfortunately, it can be hard to keep track of all the innovations!

I'd relax hobbes - a fair light conversational comment in context I think - my point is that, personally, I am not really interested in where other folks are going. In anything very much. And as you say, I do have the idea that strava is mainly aimed at roadies - plus ones who want to compete with each other. Not my style of riding.
Come to think of it I can think of a few reasons why I personally would rather avoid roadie runs - just my personal take/taste - so maybe it does have its uses for me.
Enjoy your byways and ride on.
I agree that cycle travel is excellent - I believe one of its fairly recent innovations was changing the weighting of gradients in its algorithm. At one time it had a habit of giving you some serious serious climbs all for the sake of saving some tiny distance.

 

[cyberknight]

As the OP avatar is on a road bike i think its relevant and you can select road / trail type , to slag off something you clearly havent fully investigated is poor form

 

[neil_merseyside]

strava heatmap is good for showing you where other cyclists ride

I'd not want to ride the same roads as those that our local road clubs.

 

[cyberknight]

I'd not want to ride the same roads as those that our local road clubs.

other cyclists includes more than just club riders, a whole number of rider types from commuters , leisure riders even up to lycra clad nutters use the platform.I never said it suited everyone as t was only a suggestion but it seems to have descended into a " i dont like strava " bashing thread so i will leave this thread now as the prejudice shown here isnt worth trying to reason with

 

[ColinJ]

I'm having trouble with the latest version of cycle.travel, but the problem is being looked into. (I cannot persuade it to go my chosen way up the steeper hills round here, no matter how many via points that I use.)

 

[Petrichorwheels]

I'm having trouble with the latest version of cycle.travel, but the problem is being looked into. (I cannot persuade it to go my chosen way up the steeper hills round here, no matter how many via points that I use.)

does it maybe think the way is blocked or impassable in some way?

 

[ColinJ]

does it maybe think the way is blocked or impassable in some way?

No.

I can plot a route from halfway up a hill. If I start from 10 metres down the hill it plots a route down the hill, goes on a big detour, and eventually rejoins the same road a few hundred metres further up!

I have tried it on some other local hills with 15+% gradients and it does the same kind of thing with them.

As I posted above, it is being investigated.

 

[Petrichorwheels]

No.

I can plot a route from halfway up a hill. If I start from 10 metres down the hill it plots a route down the hill, goes on a big detour, and eventually rejoins the same road a few hundred metres further up!

I have tried it on some other local hills with 15+% gradients and it does the same kind of thing with them.

As I posted above, it is being investigated.

please report back.
It does for sure have some oddities*, but is overall great I think.

* partly this is encouraging - we are free men/women/whatever - not algorithms.

 

[neil_merseyside]

No.

I can plot a route from halfway up a hill. If I start from 10 metres down the hill it plots a route down the hill, goes on a big detour, and eventually rejoins the same road a few hundred metres further up!

I have tried it on some other local hills with 15+% gradients and it does the same kind of thing with them.

As I posted above, it is being investigated.

Put 2 waypoints either end of the detour and right click on lower numbered waypoint and select 'go direct to' and CT will snap a straight line between them - do it last as sometimes CT recalculates the route if you do further edits.

 

[ColinJ]

To illustrate the problem...

Straight up the hill...

Move the start point a few metres down the hill on the steep but well-surfaced, non-blocked road...

WTF!!!!

Put 2 waypoints either end of the detour and right click on lower numbered waypoint and select 'go direct to' and CT will snap a straight line between them - do it last as sometimes CT recalculates the route if you do further edits.

Thanks - it is daft having to do it, but that actually worked. In my particular test road c.t then did another diversion higher up the hill, but I repeated the process with another couple of via points (waypoints) and sorted that out too.

This technique should enable me to start using cycle.travel again while the bug is being fixed.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

To illustrate the problem...

Straight up the hill...

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Move the start point a few metres down the hill on the steep but well-surfaced, non-blocked road...

View attachment 647762

WTF!!!!



Thanks - it is daft having to do it, but that actually worked. In my particular test road c.t then did another diversion higher up the hill, but I repeated the process with another couple of via points (waypoints) and sorted that out too.

This technique should enable me to start using cycle.travel again while the bug is being fixed.

It’s likely part of the road between those two points is incorrectly tagged and buggers up the routing. I’d take a look on PC sometime, as the source mapping is OSM and can be corrected.

 

[ColinJ]

It’s likely part of the road between those two points is incorrectly tagged and buggers up the routing. I’d take a look on PC sometime, as the source mapping is OSM and can be corrected.

I didn't spot anything when I checked, but perhaps I missed something.

Thing is, it also does the same thing on other steep road climbs in the area. For example, 'Mytholm Steeps', Hebden Bridge (Church Lane to Rawtenstall Bank).

 

[Mike_P]

It's not just steep hills, as with Komoot, it refuses to route along a signed cycle route that has existed for a number of year in Harrogate, presumably because the direct route uses a private road. I raised it with Komoot some time back drawing their attention to a published cycle route map but to no avail.