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Rugby World Cup - England

Discussion in 'CycleChat Cafe' started by Keith Oates, 19 Aug 2007.

  1. Keith Oates

    Keith Oates Janner

    If the French game yesterday is anything to go by there has to be a very dramatic improvement in the England team to make there visit to France worthwhile!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  2. longers

    longers Veteran

    What was the score Keith?

    Radio 5 reported that Brain Ashton had said they wouldn't be playing their strongest team today despite what he'd said previously (and this was before the match).
     
  3. Elmer Fudd

    Elmer Fudd Miserable Old Bar Steward

    I actually (although I hate to admit it) was shouting for Wales today !
    It must be the lesser of 2 evils
     
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    Keith Oates

    Keith Oates Janner

    longers, 22 - 9 to France :ohmy:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  5. longers

    longers Veteran

    I'm sure there's plenty of positives that can be taken from the match. Especially if you're NZ, SA or Oz (or even French).
     
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    Keith Oates

    Keith Oates Janner

    I still think the Kiwis will take home the cup!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  7. +1

    England are fast becoming the 'Tiger Tim' of World Rugby - would be lovely if it were Tiger Woods!
     
  8. Dayvo

    Dayvo Just passin' through


    I still (reluctantly) think the French will win! :ohmy:
    England? No further than the quarter finals. :ohmy:
     
  9. Hugo15

    Hugo15 Über Member

    Location:
    Stockton-on-Tees
    Thought England were poor last night. Stuart Barnes on Sky was saying that it wasn't a bad performance but I can't recall us breaking the French defensive line once and never came close to even look like we were going to score. The ball we are winning is slower than slow and consequently we look devoid of ideas in the backs.

    Can't see past NZ to win.
     
  10. Someone played like a right Cueto! I thought it was hollow, bumbling, lacking pace and totally sideways - from England's point of view. But I have already moaned about this elsewhere so I think I'd better shh...:ohmy:

    However, France showed last night that they have a right nuisance in Dusattoir and Nyanga adding impetus to a slick responsive line.

    Bring on the World Cup!:ohmy:
     
  11. Maggot

    Maggot Star of BBC 5Lives Ballot Box Brigade

    Location:
    Cheddar
    Aperitif, England are hardly the Tiger Tim of World Rugby. Tim has won shag all, England have won the World Cup, been runners up, won numerous 7s, had much success in the 5/6 Nations and won all manner of overseas tests. They, indeed all England teams, have to win all the games they play or they are suddenly crap! Think of Wales by comparison, I have a mate who is a rabid Welsh Rugby fan, and he admits that Wales could lose to Brighton Ladies Second 15, then get hammered by an Under 16s team, just as long as they beat England;) England have been suffering recently following the last World Cup, but look how many players left/ retired/ got injured after 2003.

    Having said that, my prediction is a loss to NZ in the finals. If we can play NZ in the final, is anyone more aware of the arrangemnets after the groups?
     
  12. In some respects you have a point Maggot. Since 2003, their activities have been 'peripheral' to say the least...just look at other big sides that have won the World Cup in the past - they keep on generating wins - Aus, NZ, SA, etc etc - you know that.
    England have been consistent in their dismal showings - no real invention or continuity which prevailed before the 2003 competition.
    Don't get me wrong, I expect England to do well - like Timmy at Wimbers...but I could be disappointed.
    Meanwhile -here's a view on the line ups for the games after the group matches...it is from a blog in Le Parisien so you'll understand the slight bias from my mate Ben - who got a view from his mate Glaoui - so it must be right!

    Pronostics

    A l'initiative de mon bon ami Glaoui, je vous propose de faire un petit pronostic des sorties de poule et des 1/4 - 1/2 et finale probables.

    Voici la manière dont je vois le déroulement des choses :

    Poule A : 1er : Afrique du Sud - 2ème : Angleterre ----- Poule B : 1er : Australie - 2ème : Pays de Galles

    Poule C : 1er : Nouvelle-Zélande - 2ème : Italie ----- Poule D : 1er : France - 2ème : Argentine

    Les quarts de finale :

    - Afrique du Sud - Pays de Galle : Afrique du Sud ----- Australie - Angleterre : Australie

    - Nouvelle-Zélande - Argentine : Nouvelle-Zélande ----- France-Italie : France

    Les demies :

    Afrique du Sud - Australie : Afrique du Sud

    France - Nouvelle-Zélande : France (soyons chauvins quoi !)

    Finale :

    France - Afrique du Sud : la France est championne du monde 2007 !!!!
     
  13. Cathryn

    Cathryn California Correspondant

    Took me a while to grasp he wasn't talking about international chickens!!! Hurrah for Poule A.

    I admit we're not great right now (!!) but I can still remember the overwhelming excitement when Johnny kicked that ball four years ago. I'm not going to slag 'em off now they're having a bad time! That was one of the best moments EVER!!
     
  14. Tim Bennet.

    Tim Bennet. Entirely Average Member

    Location:
    S of Kendal
    I agree.

    Having said that, I think you can't under estimate the huge advantage French teams (in all sports) seem to get when these tournaments are held in France. (cycling excepted). They really do seem to be able to generate the 'home team advantage'.

    I think they may be the surprise team.
     
  15. HJ

    HJ Cycling in Scotland

    Location:
    Auld Reekie
    I am being to look froward to the World Cup, it will be such fun watching England going out in the first round:evil::blush: