Sacre bleu!

[Drago]

In today's news, speeding drivers in France caught doing 31mph or more over the speed limit will now earn themselves an actual criminal conviction.

The conviction will be a 'delit' level job, roughly equivalent to a lower level indicatble offence in the UK, so a significant blot on knes copybook. Not something you'd want on your CV, particularly if youre in a profession that requires a CRB check (evidence of reckless behaviour,propensity to not follow safety rules, rtc)

I applaud the French on this, and fervently prey it comes here, but with an even lower threshold (say, 20% over whatever the prevailing limit was at the location), make the roads a safer place for us cyclists.

Thoughts?

 

[markemark]

Could probably google but…do points or disqualifications exist anywhere once reverted back?

 

[Gwylan]

In today's news, speeding drivers in France caught doing 31mph or more over-the-counter speed limit will now earn themselves an actual criminal conviction.

The conviction will be a 'delit' level job, roughly equivalent to a lower level indicatble offence in the UK, so a significant blot on knes copybook. Not something you'd want on your CV, particularly if youre in a profession that requires a CRB check (evidence of reckless behaviour,propensity to not follow safety rules, rtc)

I applaud the French on this, and fervently prey it comes here, but with an even lower threshold (say, 20% over whatever the prevailing limit was at the location), make the roads a safer place for us cyclists.

Thoughts?

Won't get enforced.

Did you mean "prey"? Quite witty if you did.
If you didn't, well how about punishing sloppy English spelling too?

 

[Drago]

I meant pray but was, unusually for me, on my phone which had autocorrected to the wrong option.

 

[N0bodyOfTheGoat]

Surprised it's not a % over the limit, if 30mph limit exist in France, this means they could do double the speed limit and escape this punishment.

 

[T4tomo]

Yes a percentage would be better as its generally inherently more dangerous to be speeding in a lower speed limit area, where more chance of pedestrians and other vulnerable road users, than on the motorways.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

I would agree with it being a criminal conviction after a certain point

not sure about the fixed speed over - percentage, seems better

after all, 60 in a 30 is often worse than 100 in a 70

 

[Ming the Merciless]

A good start. A decent length driving ban, no excuses, would also be good.

 

[albion]

What irks me is superweight supercars. And they often protect the driver doing the killing/maiming thus encouraging it.
The scrap car industrial estate nearish Sunderland docks is full of horrific looking writeoffs.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

A good start. A decent length driving ban, no excuses, would also be good.

It does annoy me when someone gets 3 point
then another 3
then another 3 and suddenly they can;t be banned because they have

whatever

doesn;t matter - you had the warnings and everything
if you can;t afford taxis you should have thought of that before

especially celbrities - but basically anyone

I mean - I could get a cataract next year and not be able to drive
can I plead anything for that??
no
so why should someone who actually had a choice and made it

 

[tom73]

It does annoy me when someone gets 3 point
then another 3
then another 3 and suddenly they can;t be banned because they have

whatever

doesn;t matter - you had the warnings and everything
if you can;t afford taxis you should have thought of that before

especially celbrities - but basically anyone

I mean - I could get a cataract next year and not be able to drive
can I plead anything for that??
no
so why should someone who actually had a choice and made it

It's odd given that every other type of patten of offering gets alarm bells ringing, is understood and used to put in place things aimed at reducing it or using early intervention to prevent it. Yet with motoring offences anything go's and no-one think twice.

 

[mjr]

It's odd given that every other type of patten of offering gets alarm bells ringing, is understood and used to put in place things aimed at reducing it or using early intervention to prevent it. Yet with motoring offences anything go's and no-one think twice.

Not exactly that bad, but it does feel like "exceptional hardship" isn't so exceptional any more. Does anyone know the recent statistics on it?

 

[Drago]

There should be none of this hardship bollards. You commit the crime, you should accept the punishment. If the consequences are going to hurt then the time to think about that is before offending, not after.

But I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir on that one.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

There should be none of this hardship bollards. You commit the crime, you should accept the punishment. If the consequences are going to hurt then the time to think about that is before offending, not after.

But I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir on that one.

It does seem strange how many parents or disabled children - and children of disabled elderly parents - get done for speeding many times and drunk driving

If one were to be the carer for a vulnerable person who you cared very much about then one might think that taking a risk which would affect your ability to look after them properly would be something you would avoid

but not always - apparently!

 

[Drago]

Im Mrs Ds carer, and her health can go from OKish to wheelchair bound overnight (multiple sclerosis). Accordingly, I take my responsibility seriously and do not drink alcohol at all.

The judicial system should not reward people for not being diligent as regards their caring responsibilities.