beatlejuice
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SAKER® Smart Bike Helmet with Camera
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Drago
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^^^ if they were really worried about safety they'd adjust their brakes so the levers don't come right back to the bar.
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beatlejuice
Gently does it...
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You would have thought the photographer would have picked that up. It‘s really basic stuff.
Drago
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Tightening the helmet straps properly would also help with safety.
When I attach a small hard box of flammable chemicals to my head it’s important to make sure that it’s attached securely.
kingrollo
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1st rule of cyclechat. Any new innovations are crap.
....actually I think it's a great idea - but the helmet would have to be a bit more roadie looking - and the camera would have to be decent.
Drago
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Why does the name remind me of this?
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wcSg6dAZ03w&pp=ygUKUCBpIHN0YWtlcg%3D%3D
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wcSg6dAZ03w&pp=ygUKUCBpIHN0YWtlcg%3D%3D
I'll bite on this one, especially as I think I can hold my head up as one of CCs more tech-enthused members.
The purpose of a helmet is protection - nowt more. We can go all helmet-dungeony about how effective they are, but ultimately they exist to reduce blunt-force trauma and possibly abrasions to the head. Some downsides are that they increase the effective diameter of your head, which may result in an impact that could have been avoided with no helmet, or increase the rotational forces if the helmet drags along the ground during a sliding fall. I'm not claiming either of these are showstoppers or even common, but they're worth a nod.
Lids are intended to work by absorbing and dissipating the impulse energy of the impact. To do this, the helmet polystyrene deforms, breaks down or cracks, all of which requires energy that would otherwise be heading into the brain via the hard skull.
What you don't need in this scenario is any sort of solid object that's not going to dissipate energy. Score a direct impact on the camera bit of that helmet during a fall and it's likely going to transmit most of that force to a small area on the skull like a hammer. The hammer also contains burny chemicals. Even an indirect hit would likely focus some of the impact energy as the helmet deforms.
I'm not picking on this helmet especially. Helmet mounted cameras, lights, anything attached to the helmet that isn't actually helmet - all a bad idea IMO. But....
If you poke around enough you find a forwarding email that is enough to identify a fulfilment centre M6DC in Cannock. It's difficult to work out where it goes from there, but there is one company "Super Smart Service" at that address that seems to specialise in order fulfilment for Chinese goods.
It'd be interesting to know whether this has a CE mark and EN-1078, although that might not matter by the end of this year if our more right-leaning chums in government have their way.
Drago
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Oh lordy that's torn it!
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beatlejuice
Gently does it...
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Has anyone found any evidence that a GoPro type camera mounted on a helmet is less staff than one with a camera integral? As a utility/commuter cyclist I like the idea of pushing a button, putting it only my head and riding without the faff of dealing with an external mounted camera every time. But this company seems to offer no support, it appears that they just take your money and run!
Drago
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I have personally given first aid to a chap who came off and augered the ground head first, punching his helmet mounted light through his helmet and into his brain. I see no reason why a similar solid object, such as a camera, would be any less dangerous had he been wearing it on the same spot on his helmet. He still sends me a Christmas card every year to my old station, who forward it on.
Moral of the story - don't attach anything to your helmet you wouldn't want rammed through your skull if life goes t*ts up.
For my own part, I don't find my bar mounted camera a faff. Like you I simply press a button and start my ride, the only difference being the button is on my handlebars and not my lid. That is not remotely onerous in any way.
The faff with this gubbins will come when the camera packs up, necessitating an entire new lid, or when the lids requires replacing and a perfectly usable camera ends up in landfill. It's the washer-dryer of cycle helmets.
Even if the camera is modular and somehow removable to allow transfer into a new helmet - and there is no mention of this being the case in the blurb - you're then tied to one make, possibly even one model of lid. Great for them as a business model, not so good for those that use different lids for different types of riding or weather, or for those thwt want to try a different type of lid as technology moves forward.
Lots of potential downsides here, very little on the positive side of the ledger.
Moral of the story - don't attach anything to your helmet you wouldn't want rammed through your skull if life goes t*ts up.
For my own part, I don't find my bar mounted camera a faff. Like you I simply press a button and start my ride, the only difference being the button is on my handlebars and not my lid. That is not remotely onerous in any way.
The faff with this gubbins will come when the camera packs up, necessitating an entire new lid, or when the lids requires replacing and a perfectly usable camera ends up in landfill. It's the washer-dryer of cycle helmets.
Even if the camera is modular and somehow removable to allow transfer into a new helmet - and there is no mention of this being the case in the blurb - you're then tied to one make, possibly even one model of lid. Great for them as a business model, not so good for those that use different lids for different types of riding or weather, or for those thwt want to try a different type of lid as technology moves forward.
Lots of potential downsides here, very little on the positive side of the ledger.
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