Scout Camp and 'Care' Issues

[classic33]

A side that seems to have been missed is what controls are in place to prevent the wrong person taking any medication.
Seen it done and having to get a scout two miles on a stretcher to the main road, gone midnight, ambulance couldn't get along the road at the time was something that could have been done without.
I was the Warden on the site at the time it happenned, and acted on the advise of two doctors and the ambulance service.
And kids will be kids.

 

[cosmicbike]

A side that seems to have been missed is what controls are in place to prevent the wrong person taking any medication.
Seen it done and having to get a scout two miles on a stretcher to the main road, gone midnight, ambulance couldn't get along the road at the time was something that could have been done without.
I was the Warden on the site at the time it happenned, and acted on the advise of two doctors and the ambulance service.
And kids will be kids.

On any camp with my Cubs, ALL medication comes to me. I control the issue of and make sure the right YP gets the right medication at the right time. YP's that have Epi-pens which they would usually self-administer are trusted to do so.

 

[screenman]

Maggot, this line of yours worries me a bit "as most of the youngsters are on something or other, but mostly inhalers to be fair." Is this something new in children today, I cannot remember kids when I was young having that many problems. Mind you I can remember just about the gas man turning the light on at the corner of our street.

 

[classic33]

Maggot, this line of yours worries me a bit "as most of the youngsters are on something or other, but mostly inhalers to be fair." Is this something new in children today, I cannot remember kids when I was young having that many problems. Mind you I can remember just about the gas man turning the light on at the corner of our street.

The number of kids taking medication for one reason or another is on the increase. The same as in the adult population.

 

[screenman]

The number of kids taking medication for one reason or another is on the increase. The same as in the adult population.

Why? What are we doing so wrong.

 

[classic33]

Why? What are we doing so wrong.

Most are just not actually getting out enough.

 

[fossyant]

The leaders seem relaxed enough. There are only 5 or 6 going we have found out and two leaders.

 

[fossyant]

I ran and helped with Beavers. At least the kids in Scouts have been there a while. We were the only Beaver group in the area that did indoor camps and overnights.

 

[classic33]

[QUOTE 3090268, member: 76"]I don't know why, maybe it is something to do with the parents demanding medication everytime they go to the Drs, but you are probably right. I don't remember any of the kids in my class being on anything, indeed an inhaler would have almost singled you out as some kind of invalid!

I think that @classic33 has it partly right and kids don't get out so much, you wouldn't believe the questions that we get asked about our Scout activities. It is really not unusual that parents (and it is mostly mums rather than dads) ask me what we are doing instead of a planned walk because it's raining, the answer is always the same..... we are putting coats on and going on the walk. I guess parents are being much more protective/molly coddling or risk averse with their kids?[/QUOTE]
I was one of 18 in a school of over 1200 taking daily medication. I'd love to know what that figure would be today.

Many of the questions that we, as leaders had then were over the food being eaten on camp. I also had the experience of being a Site Warden. One question put to all group leaders arriving was "Is there anything you don't want selling". Often there'd be one or two who had to watch what they ate, not always medical reasons. So they were invited into the small on site shop.

 

[classic33]

Does the pre-camp form still get sent out by groups these days?
Asking for details such as this as well as is there anything they can't do, on medical grounds.

 

[cosmicbike]

Does the pre-camp form still get sent out by groups these days?
Asking for details such as this as well as is there anything they can't do, on medical grounds.

Yes, consent forms. I had one back and against food allergies was "no pasta as he doesn't like the texture". Needless to say we fed him spag bol and it went down with no problems...

 

[fossyant]

Consent forms go out, but not detailed enough. We passed on the school care plan to them last night.

The Nurse just called me and recommended dropping his 24hour injection by 2 units, and his food ratio is 1 unit to 10 carbs, but for tea time, drop it to 1 to 15 as he may go low after all the activity.

We will have this detailed what to do. The Leaders have told us the meal plan, so we can pre-work it out. Fairly simple, cerial and bacon butties for breakfast, sandwiches, fruit and crisps for lunch, hotpot or pasta for tea. Fairly easy to work out. Bread 15 carbs slice, crisps 15 carbs, pasta 40-50 carbs, hotpot (potatoes) about 30 carbs, apples 10 carbs, banana 20 carbs.

The nurse recommended a blood glucose check in the night - oh the leaders won't like that - sorry !!!

 

[Sara_H]

Realistically, I think that given the number of children to adults, your son is going to have to be responsible for sorting this out himself.

I know that'll give you qualms, but it is doable.

My nephew was 11 when he was diagnosed. I took him camping about four weeks later and wanted all the info from his Mum, but she said "no, it's fine, he'll sort it." And guess what - he did.

The only instructions I received were what to do if I recognised a hypo, but he always recoginsed that early and sorted it himself too.

Quite a tough lesson, but he's at an age where he needs to manage it independently.

 

[fossyant]

If he has supper he won't go low overnight, so hopefully no need to check. There is no way I am aloud overnight, and have to be accompanied during the day, so pointless being there.

He will manage it and we have stuff ready for any hypos. He will be unsupervised for quite some time, so we will give him a note to pass to which ever instructor he is with. The leaders will most likely be at the tents.

 

[summerdays]

Doesn't there have to be someone with first aid qualifications and admin of meds too?

I would want a care plan from you, detailing what was normal and also what to look out for. I would also want your mobile number on those forms and in my mobile too. Though personally I wouldn't be turning down your offer of help given the recent diagnosis.