Seems the hot weather is bringing out the numpties...

[fossyant]

I wonder if the braking was premeditated or just an (honest) panic reaction to the horn? I would normally imagine a couple of seconds for malicious reaction to kick in for retaliation to a beep?

Quite right.

 

[glenn forger]

Kookas - rightly or wrongly people generalize - they see cyclists doing idiotic things and assume all cyclists are idiots, and to an extent I agree..

You think I'm an idiot cyclist because of what other, entirely unrelated and disconnected cyclists do? You're barking mate.

 

[J.Primus]

This thread is so partisan, so self-righteous it hurts. I commute 5 days a week, I witness incidents like these maybe once a month. They are trivial in the extreme. However, I see bikes blatantly go through red lights causing cars to take evasive action and cycle on pavements frightening pedestrians EVERY DAY. Its little wonder that motorist hate us. They should have video cameras and post on youtube.

On my journey from Kingston to Chiswick, general weekday motoring traffic is generally very civilised. Conversely cyclists, particularly in Richmond Park are terrible, regularly failing to give way on roundabouts and cross roads. A few weeks ago I had an idiot who overtook me just before the Kingston exit roundabout intending to turn left in front of me. I was going straight on, as my road positioning would have told any sensible person following me.

From my observations, there are far more idiots on bikes than in cars – there are just a lot more cars.

If we want more respect from motorists we have to improve the riding of the average cyclist.

If only cyclists could learn to behave then we might only kill a few thousand people every year like those well behaved motorists. What are we like...

 

[CopperBrompton]

I wonder if the braking was premeditated or just an (honest) panic reaction to the horn? I would normally imagine a couple of seconds for malicious reaction to kick in for retaliation to a beep?

Agreed. An instinctive response to a loud horn, especially an unexpected one, is to hit the brakes. Best not to use the horn in this situation IMV.

 

[BlackPanther]

This thread is so partisan, so self-righteous it hurts. I commute 5 days a week, I witness incidents like these maybe once a month. They are trivial in the extreme. However, I see bikes blatantly go through red lights causing cars to take evasive action and cycle on pavements frightening pedestrians EVERY DAY. Its little wonder that motorist hate us. They should have video cameras and post on youtube.

On my journey from Kingston to Chiswick, general weekday motoring traffic is generally very civilised. Conversely cyclists, particularly in Richmond Park are terrible, regularly failing to give way on roundabouts and cross roads. A few weeks ago I had an idiot who overtook me just before the Kingston exit roundabout intending to turn left in front of me. I was going straight on, as my road positioning would have told any sensible person following me.

From my observations, there are far more idiots on bikes than in cars – there are just a lot more cars.

If we want more respect from motorists we have to improve the riding of the average cyclist.

What a horrifying attitude against a cyclist who did absolutely nothing wrong.Why bring into the discussion the attitude of other cyclists on the roads? It makes no sense.

If you were stuck in a lift with a group of Germans, would you mention the war?

 

[J.Primus]

If you were stuck in a lift with a group of Germans, would you mention the war?

It'd be rude not to.

 

[stowie]

This thread is so partisan, so self-righteous it hurts. I commute 5 days a week, I witness incidents like these maybe once a month. They are trivial in the extreme. However, I see bikes blatantly go through red lights causing cars to take evasive action and cycle on pavements frightening pedestrians EVERY DAY. Its little wonder that motorist hate us. They should have video cameras and post on youtube.

On my journey from Kingston to Chiswick, general weekday motoring traffic is generally very civilised. Conversely cyclists, particularly in Richmond Park are terrible, regularly failing to give way on roundabouts and cross roads. A few weeks ago I had an idiot who overtook me just before the Kingston exit roundabout intending to turn left in front of me. I was going straight on, as my road positioning would have told any sensible person following me.

From my observations, there are far more idiots on bikes than in cars – there are just a lot more cars.

If we want more respect from motorists we have to improve the riding of the average cyclist.

I don't think I need cyclists as a collective to "earn" the respect of motorists in order to stop them endangering me with their careless driving. It would be rather pleasant if some motorists could take responsibility for operating dangerous equipment in the public realm without having to feel that they need "respect" to do so.

 

[Hip Priest]

That pass was definitely far too close. I'd tend to give them the benefit of the doubt over the braking, as I think it's more likely to be an instinctive reaction to the horn rather than a deliberate brake-test. It still amounts to bad driving though.

 

[Hip Priest]

This thread is so partisan, so self-righteous it hurts. I commute 5 days a week, I witness incidents like these maybe once a month. They are trivial in the extreme. However, I see bikes blatantly go through red lights causing cars to take evasive action and cycle on pavements frightening pedestrians EVERY DAY. Its little wonder that motorist hate us. They should have video cameras and post on youtube.

On my journey from Kingston to Chiswick, general weekday motoring traffic is generally very civilised. Conversely cyclists, particularly in Richmond Park are terrible, regularly failing to give way on roundabouts and cross roads. A few weeks ago I had an idiot who overtook me just before the Kingston exit roundabout intending to turn left in front of me. I was going straight on, as my road positioning would have told any sensible person following me.

From my observations, there are far more idiots on bikes than in cars – there are just a lot more cars.

If we want more respect from motorists we have to improve the riding of the average cyclist.

Well said nickr.

Cyclists killed 3000+ people in the UK last year. Oh no, hang on.

 

[J.Primus]

Why did this thread get resurrected after a year? Are we celebrating its anniversary!

 

[Hip Priest]

Why did this thread get resurrected after a year? Are we celebrating its anniversary!

Didn't even realise it was from last year! It was all Black Panther's fault.

 

[Deleted member 1258]

nickr, your post really is a load of rubbish, and if you think closes passes, punishment braking and people screaming at cyclists from cars is "trivial" then you're dead wrong, it's playing silly beggars with a ton of metal, when I'm riding my bike I don't want a close pass and screamed abuse, I'm trying to stay alive here!

Though its definitely not trivial its something that's very very rare, almost all my commutes are just routine.

 

[Deleted member 1258]

I didn't realize it was from last year either, must have missed it first time round.

 

[snorri]

Why did this thread get resurrected after a year? Are we celebrating its anniversary!

Look upon it as a celebration of summer, a sort of cyclists equivalent to the Maypole.

 

[Big Nick]

Happens all the time unfortunately

I agree the braking was probably reactions down to the horn blast