Self defence

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jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
A couple of years ago I had a run in somebody in Liverpool city centre. The driver shouted at me, then got out and came at me with clenched fists raised. I hopped off the bike quickly and lifting it, thrust it out at arms length, just as the driver ran on to it, getting a pedal in the mouth and losing some teeth in the process. Sorted . I tell you, that's one little old woman who will think twice next time before attacking a defenceless cyclist.

Yes, your bike can be your best friend. With someone approaching like that, picking up your bike and throwing it at them is a good ploy.
Depending on the level of threat and the size of the attacker, following the bike's flight then jumping on bike and attacker works just fine.
 
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chillyuk

Guest
I`m going to request Chillyuk comes with me at all times on my commute !!

Be warned, I can look after myself better than I can cycle so you will probably be late for work!
 

ianrauk

Tattooed Beat Messiah
Location
Rides Ti2
Only ever had one confrontation on my commute when a BMW driver decided to beep at me for no reason as I was in the ASL in front of him. He kept beeping so I gave him the finger. He got out of his car giving it large. I got off my bike and went for him giving it even larger (you effing want some then? type thing). He suddenly realised that I was a bit bigger and angrier then he was and he backed down. I just told him to get back in his car and bugger off.. which he did with all wheels screeching.. tosser.

As to Ben's situation, having met and cycled with Ben a few times. I expect nothing less from him. He is a real gent.
If it was me, as soon as that twat touched/swung for me my I would have floored the runt.
 
This thread is inspired by benborp's WVM assault

I know CookieMonster does Thai Boxing, and Magnatom is handy at Judo, but how many others who experience road rage/conflict have any martial art training?

Mags doesn't need judo, he just relies on that Glaswegian standby SeeYouse, the immortal battle cry of this most specialised of the martial arts of course being "Aes' tha' the bess' you can due !?"


(sorry Mags, trying to spell phonetic Glesgae patter ain't easy :blush: )
 

slowmotion

Quite dreadful
Location
lost somewhere
A couple of years ago I had a run in somebody in Liverpool city centre. The driver shouted at me, then got out and came at me with clenched fists raised. I hopped off the bike quickly and lifting it, thrust it out at arms length, just as the driver ran on to it, getting a pedal in the mouth and losing some teeth in the process. Sorted . I tell you, that's one little old woman who will think twice next time before attacking a defenceless cyclist.



:bravo:
 
Oh, and p.s. unless you are unlucky enough to come up against a genuie psychopath, the best defence is to hoik your bike in front of you, keep it between you and them, let them cool off/run out of steam and hope someone calls the cavalry. You can get far more hurt trying to trade blows than you ever would doing the above, however weak/cowardly/not-being-a-man it may seem.
 
Mags doesn't need judo, he just relies on that Glaswegian standby SeeYouse, the immortal battle cry of this most specialised of the martial arts of course being "Aes' tha' the bess' you can due !?"


(sorry Mags, trying to spell phonetic Glesgae patter ain't easy :blush: )

:biggrin:
On yer'sel big man!
 

ian emmerson

Well-Known Member
In my day job i am trained and refreshed regularly to deal with situations of a violent nature.

No matter how anyone feels about their own physical strength and abilities the advice i would give is to avoid confrontation wherever possible, particularly if the situation is escalating, even if it means getting out of the situation and "lose face ". No matter how well trained you are it only reduces the possibiliies of harm and without regular refresher training your confidence will decline.

De escaltion and break away training, i would suggest at the most is what anyone who is concerned for their general wellbeing needs.

The most important thing to remember is whatever action you take in any violent situation has to be" proportionate and necessary" to the harm itself.
There are many cases of case law following these type of situations where the " defendant " has found themselves at the wrong end of the law following what has started as violence againt them.

Cyclists like ourselves are generally quite fit and should use this advantage to pedal away wherever possible , i have.

Good point though, and it shows just what some members of our society can be like. Why "take them on " is my thought and instead learn to avoid possible harm and only do the absolute minimum to get myself out of harms way.

Experiences of assaults , injuries, hospital treatments to myself have taught me its better to avoid than increase any risk of harm to myself or others
 
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ComedyPilot

ComedyPilot

Secret Lemonade Drinker
Once again I feel the need to reiterate: avoiding conflict is the first priority.

However, the OP was attacked, and I questioned people's thoughts on doing some form of self defence to help deal with such a situation.

As well as self defence, a good knowledge of criminal law, and an understanding of the term 'reasonable force' is also recommended.
 
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Deleted member 1258

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You lot sound paranoid, before any one says anything I have watched the video and its nasty, glad to see it going to court. But I have a question, why all the agro? I can't remember the last time I had a confrontation, Tell a lie yes I can, 2008 when I got punched in the back by a passenger in a passing car, I got his number and gave it to the police. That is the only major incident I've had. I read regularly on here of people having confrontations with drivers, which I don't seem to have, why so much agro?


This is old but intresting

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jimmy_fatwing/SelfProtection/cycle.htm
 

Ste T.

Guru
In the words of the late, great Richard Pryor " learn to run.....and teach your woman to run too"
 
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chillyuk

Guest
I agree entirely with the sentiments about avoiding conflict where possible, even at the expense of losing face. Nowadays you are just as likely to get some idiot get out of his car and aim a handgun at you and I don't care how good anyone is at self defence there is no defence against a well aimed bullet.
 

cyberknight

As long as I breathe, I attack.
I have had only 1 physical confrontation so far and used positive body language to control the situation by not being intimidated by the assailant as i was prepared to defend myself having studied Lau Gar kung Fu and then moving onto Wing Chun/MMA for over 10 years .
This is not to say i would have initiated a fight or use the more "interesting" stuff on an attacker but it gave me the confidence to put out the "Don`t mess with me " vibe.
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
I have had only 1 physical confrontation so far and used positive body language to control the situation by not being intimidated by the assailant as i was prepared to defend myself having studied Lau Gar kung Fu and then moving onto Wing Chun/MMA for over 10 years .
This is not to say i would have initiated a fight or use the more "interesting" stuff on an attacker but it gave me the confidence to put out the "Don`t mess with me " vibe.

All the time. Standing up on the pedals with a menacing stare when accelerating in traffic works.
 
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