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Depends, a lot of these drivers are self employed and own the lorry and are paid by the load , the company that pays them may even pay to have the company logo on the side of the lorry.
Serious accident in Finchley. Another tipper-truck.
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Depends, a lot of these drivers are self employed and own the lorry and are paid by the load , the company that pays them may even pay to have the company logo on the side of the lorry.
GrumpyGregry
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marknotgeorge
Hol den Vorschlaghammer!
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My dad's been making a living out of driving since he was old enough to drive: he's driven ambulances, army wagons, buses, coaches, and most recently HGVs - he used the redundancy money from a coach driving job to pay for his HGV licence. One of the first non-agency jobs he had was driving a bulk powder tanker, where he was paid a wage plus a percentage of the load. He quickly left that because of the constant pressure to get another load in. Slightly different to tippers, I know, but I suspect that a remuneration policy that rewards more loads is going to put negative pressure on driving standards.
I spoke to him about cyclists and tippers, and he mentioned that when he's in his car, he's wary when there's a tipper about. He also mentioned the higher percentage of owner-drivers in the tipper trade. Not only does this mean that there's added pressure on making every driving hour earn money (no load = no cash, whereas the empty time is calculated into, say, a supermarket truck's costings), but such vehicles are likely to be older, without the extra mirrors fitted to the newer supermarket trucks, which are contractually likely to be no more than a year or two old. And that's leaving aside the muck and increased wear and tear caused by moving, well, muck about.
I spoke to him about cyclists and tippers, and he mentioned that when he's in his car, he's wary when there's a tipper about. He also mentioned the higher percentage of owner-drivers in the tipper trade. Not only does this mean that there's added pressure on making every driving hour earn money (no load = no cash, whereas the empty time is calculated into, say, a supermarket truck's costings), but such vehicles are likely to be older, without the extra mirrors fitted to the newer supermarket trucks, which are contractually likely to be no more than a year or two old. And that's leaving aside the muck and increased wear and tear caused by moving, well, muck about.
BentMikey
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Lee, hell of a nice bloke in real life, good cyclist, utter count of a forum personality. Sorry mate, but it's true IMO. 
Andrew_P
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Lee, hell of a nice bloke in real life, good cyclist, utter count of a forum personality. Sorry mate, but it's true IMO.
A bit of a Royal then?
mark st1
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All HGV vehicles have to meet whatever criteria that VOSA set out no matter what age of the vehicle if they dont then they fail an MOT test.
GrumpyGregry
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mark st1
Plastic Manc
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Serious answer...........
I dont know lol i dont think so my company owns trucks going from V reg up to 13 plate brand new and all of them have to go through the same process of checks mirrors are all the same on every truck etc etc. I suppose there maybe exemptions for old old truicks but im not so sure you will find many or any of them still pulling dirt nowadays ??
Boris Bajic
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Lee, hell of a nice bloke in real life, good cyclist, utter count of a forum personality. Sorry mate, but it's true IMO.
This reminds me:
Many years ago, I was doing a lot of work around language and how to identify the origin of a non-native speaker of this or that language and all that malarkey... On dark winter evenings I'd go to a colleague's home and watch the latest videos. We were working in foreign, so they all had subtitles.
Anyway, there is a wonderful speech in Snatch where Brick Top defines the word Nemesis as "A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an 'orrible daffodil... me."
In the Bosnian (or maybe Croatian) subtitles, the C-word was rendered as 'Grof'.... Count. It was quite sweet in a sweet sort of way.
Carry on.
