Shakespeare and stuff

[MarquisMatsugae]

Load of old sh*te if you ask me.

Which none of you didn't .

 

[ufkacbln]

Cunobelin: to answer your question, I am against dishonest advertising.

I am, however, not persuaded yet that the advertising in question was dishonest.

That will always be a personal opinion, in this case however, independently supported by Southwark Trading Standards

Any complaint about the dishonesty should really be addressed with the perspective that it was found to be unsatisfactory by trading standards

 

[swansonj]

N

What we have here is the original complaint

The difference here is the dismissal of the complaint (even when supported and legally enforced) as "Pooteresque", which raises the ironic misunderstanding of the term and about the legitimacy of challenging advertising.

A blatantly unsupportable position. illustrated by the avoidance of answering the question about the acceptability of dishonest and misleading advertising, and he fact that it should be unacceptable

How would you feel if a genuine complaint about dangerous driving and the individual found guilty was dismissed as "Pooteresque"

That is the reality here

No, the reality is we each form an opinion on the rights and wrongs of each situation, and we do not regard a legal opinion as a trump card that overrules our own opinion.

Quite a few of us here seem to be forming a view of the rights and wrongs. My own view is best encapsulated in a post from someone else up thread: people who want their theatre safe, predictable, comfortable, and undemanding are probably better off going to a musical.

 

[ufkacbln]

Load of old sh*te if you ask me.

Which none of you didn't .

Anthony and Cleopatra:

The poop was beaten gold......

 

[swansonj]

I can't get away with the plays - they are all Greek to me - but Shakepeare's contribution to the written and spoken word is immense.

As Bernard Levin put it:

If you cannot understand my argument, and declare ``It's Greek to me'', you are quoting Shakespeare; if you claim to be more sinned against than sinning, you are quoting Shakespeare; if you recall your salad days, you are quoting Shakespeare; if you act more in sorrow than in anger; if your wish is farther to the thought; if your lost property has vanished into thin air, you are quoting Shakespeare; if you have ever refused to budge an inch or suffered from green-eyed jealousy, if you have played fast and loose, if you have been tongue-tied, a tower of strength, hoodwinked or in a pickle, if you have knitted your brows, made a virtue of necessity, insisted on fair play, slept not one wink, stood on ceremony, danced attendance (on your lord and master), laughed yourself into stitches, had short shrift, cold comfort or too much of a good thing, if you have seen better days or lived in a fool's paradise -why, be that as it may, the more fool you , for it is a foregone conclusion that you are (as good luck would have it) quoting Shakespeare; if you think it is early days and clear out bag and baggage, if you think it is high time and that that is the long and short of it, if you believe that the game is up and that truth will out even if it involves your own flesh and blood, if you lie low till the crack of doom because you suspect foul play, if you have your teeth set on edge (at one fell swoop) without rhyme or reason, then - to give the devil his due - if the truth were known (for surely you have a tongue in your head) you are quoting Shakespeare; even if you bid me good riddance and send me packing, if you wish I was dead as a door-nail, if you think I am an eyesore, a laughing stock, the devil incarnate, a stony-hearted villain, bloody-minded or a blinking idiot, then - by Jove! O Lord! Tut tut! For goodness' sake! What the dickens! But me no buts! - it is all one to me, for you are quoting Shakespeare.

Yes, yes, that's all very well, but no-one goes to Shakespeare for the language - which century did the costumes come from?

 

[ufkacbln]

N

No, the reality is we each form an opinion on the rights and wrongs of each situation, and we do not regard a legal opinion as a trump card that overrules our own opinion.

Quite a few of us here seem to be forming a view of the rights and wrongs. My own view is best encapsulated in a post from someone else up thread: people who want their theatre safe, predictable, comfortable, and undemanding are probably better off going to a musical.

That was ProfPointy's mistake as well

I have a wide experience of Theatre, and realise that there are changes to cast, and interpretation. I have seen and enjoyed theatre at its best and worst, all that I ask is that it bears some semblance to what is described in the advertising, and when you arrive it is of a reasonable standard

In this case it was neither

 

[ufkacbln]

Yes, yes, that's all very well, but no-one goes to Shakespeare for the language - which century did the costumes come from?

The period in which the interpretation is set, some have the original script, some interpret at least part of the text into modern language or another date to fulfil their theatrical aims

Take "West Side Story"....... Costume and script are both modern, all that is needed is for the organisers to be honest about their interpretation

 

[theclaud]

That was ProfPointy's mistake as well

I have a wide experience of Theatre, and realise that there are changes to cast, and interpretation. I have seen and enjoyed theatre at its best and worst, all that I ask is that it bears some semblance to what is described in the advertising, and when you arrive it is of a reasonable standard

In this case it was neither

Perhaps you could describe this 'advertising'? I am sort of enjoying this thread.

 

[srw]

N

No, the reality is we each form an opinion on the rights and wrongs of each situation, and we do not regard a legal opinion as a trump card that overrules our own opinion.

Quite a few of us here seem to be forming a view of the rights and wrongs. My own view is best encapsulated in a post from someone else up thread: people who want their theatre safe, predictable, comfortable, and undemanding are probably better off going to a musical.

Oh I say. A jukebox musical, perhaps - but not one of the classics. Kiss me Kate can be as radical a piece of theatre as Macbeth, in the right hands.

 

[ufkacbln]

Perhaps you could describe this 'advertising'? I am sort of enjoying this thread.

So am I ...

It is funny to see how the "hit and run insulters" an others have gone to desperate lengths to avoid answering a simple question

 

[srw]

So am I ...

It is funny to see how the "hit and run insulters" an others have gone to desperate lengths to avoid answering a simple question

"Hit and run insulters". That feels like a bit of false advertising to me. I may have to call in Southwark Trading Standards to help me.

 

[srw]

Hmmm.... "Game Changing" - and pictures of three players from different teams with three balls - they must mean three teams all playing each other, with three balls!

No - it's just a bit of advertising nonsense. Pah! Southwark Trading Standards, here we come.

[edited for obvious mistyping]

 

[srw]

I planted them, and they didn't grow a magic beanstalk in five minutes. I'm disgusted - who's got Southwark Trading Standards' phone number?

 

[ufkacbln]

One often wonders how pathetic some posters can get, then worryingly it becomes clear....

Hmmm.... "Game Changing" - and pictures of three players from different teams with three balls - they must mean three teams all playing each other, with three balls!



No - it's just a bit of advertising nonse. Pah! Southwark Trading Standards, here we come.

At least read the advert... it is clear that this advert applies to the "Arriva Premiership Rugby"

As for disclaiming the advertisers as "nonses".....I had to google that and the intepretation is paedophiles .... again that is your unique interpretation of the advert

 

[srw]

I went - and there wasn't even a drop of red paint. Southwark Trading Standards are going to be busy.