Should being fat be socially unacceptable

[Paul J]

Why is it that cyclists expect the NHS to help them recover from injuries? After all they put themselves on the bike in the first place.

Some cyclists expect everyone else to pick up the bill

 

[Paul J]

Why is it that ultra-thin people expect the NHS to help them gain weight, after all they shoved spoons down their throat to vomit or laxatives in their faces in the first place.

Yep Why?

 

[ufkacbln]

Yep Why?

For all the same reasons read the two together, why should one group be criticised and not the other?

Both extremes of BMI are dangerous to health, cost the NHS in treatment and it is surely rather hypocritical to choose to find one socially acceptable, and not the other?

 

[Silver Fox]

.... big fit guys are essential for procreation of the species, and generally more fun to be with too.

 

[Pat "5mph"]

no worries, I can do the brainy bits, you stand there looking pretty

 

[captain nemo1701]

Maybe if more people tried walking or cycling instead of jumping into their petrol/diesel engined armchair it may help a little.

Tend to agree with this. Last saturday in central Bristol, I saw a mother, father, two teenage daughters emerge from a tiny hatchback and all four of them were...well..let's just say they'd make Jabba the Hut look slim. Felt sorry for the car suspension. I can't recall seeing a fat cyclist.

It's the convenience culture we live in. There is an unwritten law called 'The Law of Least Possible Effort' which people slavishly follow.

 

[tyred]

Tend to agree with this. Last saturday in central Bristol, I saw a mother, father, two teenage daughters emerge from a tiny hatchback and all four of them were...well..let's just say they'd make Jabba the Hut look slim. Felt sorry for the car suspension. I can't recall seeing a fat cyclist.

It's the convenience culture we live in. There is an unwritten law called 'The Law of Least Possible Effort' which people slavishly follow.

I see one every time I look in the mirror

 

[Paul J]

For all the same reasons read the two together, why should one group be criticised and not the other?

Both extremes of BMI are dangerous to health, cost the NHS in treatment and it is surely rather hypocritical to choose to find one socially acceptable, and not the other?

Why stop at Fat or Skinny people. How about the short people or tall people. Or people with one eye or maybe people with ginger hair. Maybe there's no sociably acceptable format?

 

[Sittingduck]

I can't recall seeing a fat cyclist.

Are you serious?

 

[rollinstok]

Why stop at Fat or Skinny people. How about the short people or tall people. Or people with one eye or maybe people with ginger hair. Maybe there's no sociably acceptable format?

Reminds me of an old Pink Floyd track off " The Wall " album..

Are there any queers in the theatre tonight ?.... get em up against the wall
Theres one in the spotlight, he dont look right to me.. get him up against the wall
That one looks Jewish, and that ones a Coon.. who let all of this riff raff into the room ?
Theres one smoking a joint, and another with spots....
If I had my waaay, I'd have all of em shot !!

I would definitely have included fatties and gingers

 

[threebikesmcginty]

Socially unacceptable is more of a 'doing' thing, such as not getting a fuggin' round in.

 

[ufkacbln]

Why stop at Fat or Skinny people. How about the short people or tall people. Or people with one eye or maybe people with ginger hair. Maybe there's no sociably acceptable format?

The problem is singling out a single group as unacceptable when the grounds for selection are not unique.

 

[Archie_tect]

Look, being seriously overweight is not a good thing for your body to cope with... any inoffensive encouragement which helps people to achieve a balanced and healthy lifestyle leading to the loss of unnecessary weight will reduce the burden on their heart and joints which will help them enjoy physical activity more. There are a small number of people who due to medical conditions can't benefit from such a programme which is distressing for them but there's nothing that can be done about that. The savings in the cost of dealing with obesity in people's lives is a small cost compared to the cost of treating their health problems resulting frpm obesity. It's not unreasonable but people have to want to do it. Smoking is perceived to be an anti-social pastime for the majority.... challenging obesity shouldn't be seen the same way until fat people have the means to change their lives without feeling ostracised by society.

 

[Dan B]

You seem to think it is hard just for fatties to lose weight and get fit. It is hard for everyone even those who are normal weight thin.

Speaking as someone who is "normal weight thin", your assertion does not match my experience. I rarely pay that much attention to what I eat, and certainly don't struggle with it.

 

[ufkacbln]

Look, being seriously overweight is not a good thing for your body to cope with... any inoffensive encouragement which helps people to achieve a balanced and healthy lifestyle leading to the loss of unnecessary weight will reduce the burden on their heart and joints which will help them enjoy physical activity more. There are a small number of people who due to medical conditions can't benefit from such a programme which is distressing for them but there's nothing that can be done about that. The savings in the cost of dealing with obesity in people's lives is a small cost compared to the cost of treating their health problems resulting frpm obesity. It's not unreasonable but people have to want to do it. Smoking is perceived to be an anti-social pastime for the majority.... challenging obesity shouldn't be seen the same way until fat people have the means to change their lives without feeling ostracised by society.

All of which again equally applies to the chronically underweight....