Sin bin for red light jumping cyclists

[annedonnelly]

Guardian article - red light jumping cyclists given the option of a £50 fine or watching a road safety video.

 

[Punkawallah]

Will the same principle apply to drivers that do close passes, I wonder?

 

[DRM]

Will the same principle apply to drivers that do close passes, I wonder?

Or the ones that also go through the lights on red, I suspect there's far more cars than cyclists run red traffic lights daily, going on my observations daily anyway

 

[DRM]

This last paragraph speaks volumes at the end of the article
Fyans said most cyclists do follow the Highway Code, but that a focus on bicycle users was “disproportionate” and a result of the rising number of bike users on London’s roads.

“I think there’s double standards quite often,” he said. “We’re not the biggest danger. It’s cars and speeding and drivers not paying attention that kill people on our roads. That’s the biggest challenge that needs addressing.”

Fyans, who works with Wheels for Wellbeing – a cycling disability group – said he understood the dangers for visually impaired pedestrians and wheelchair users.

But can relations between cyclists and pedestrians be improved? “Let’s address it, but let’s be proportionate about what the real problem is,” he said. “Cyclists are not really the main problem on the road when it comes to danger.”

 

[mjr]

Or the ones that also go through the lights on red, I suspect there's far more cars than cyclists run red traffic lights daily, going on my observations daily anyway

Some red lights on cycleways are advisory anyway, at toucan and puffin crossings, which I think should be amber to keep the clarity of red being compulsory, but that horse bolted 40+ years ago.

Then there's all the badly-designed traffic light junctions where it's actually more dangerous to stop before the red light, so this is an awful exercise, punishing cyclists for taking responsibility for their own safety. Many such junctions should have zebras for walkers, to make it clear they always have priority, but that would offend the god of motor vehicle flows and its disciples in the highways departments.

But I expect the police want to curry favour with the tabloid mob, and a few scummy cyclist lives don't matter!

 

[DRM]

Some red lights on cycleways are advisory anyway, at toucan and puffin crossings, which I think should be amber to keep the clarity of red being compulsory, but that horse bolted 40+ years ago.

Then there's all the badly-designed traffic light junctions where it's actually more dangerous to stop before the red light, so this is an awful exercise, punishing cyclists for taking responsibility for their own safety.

But I expect the police want to curry favour with the tabloid mob, and a few scummy cyclist lives don't matter!

There was one set of lights close to me that I would go past the line as there was a sweeping left turn off the main road, where drivers hurtle round, it would go green before the main set of lights I would be stopped at, I felt it would be so easy to be rear ended, and the main road was a short 2 lane section where the MGIF mentality came into play too, so technically illegal, but a damn sight safer option

 

[Rusty Nails]

Or the ones that also go through the lights on red, I suspect there's far more cars than cyclists run red traffic lights daily, going on my observations daily anyway

Punishments only apply for cyclists and cars if they are caught.

Vast majority of both aren't.

 

[Rusty Nails]

punishing cyclists for taking responsibility for their own safety

Because most cyclists going through red are clearly and undoubtedly doing that.