Six years of carbon frame evolution..... quite a difference.

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Globalti

Legendary Member
Been riding a 2006 Roubaix for the last 4 years and enjoying it. However it's got some witness cracks in the paint and it's getting a bit ropey so I've borrowed a demo 2012 Roubaix SL2 from my LBS for a few days. This is the very lowest incarnation of the bike with Sora and some cheap wheels and naff tyres so it's quite heavy and the tyre and wheel combination is dire, really heavy, sluggish and dull.

So today I put my own Ksyrium SL wheels on it and my own seatpost and saddle and took it for a nice long ride. It's still a little heavier than my own Roubaix. It has 9 speed so I had to swop the cassette over to my wheel. The cassette only does 14-28, which is a pain on downhills. However having taken out two of the major variables my main interest is the frame and what 6 years of evolution has brought to the handling.

As expected it feels more direct and efficient especially on climbs. The ride is super-plush, much more so than on the old Roubaix with its straight seat stays, in fact on lumpy tarmac you can feel the rear end bouncing and it feels like my first ever ride on a titanium mountain bike - I kept glancing down to check I hadn't got a puncture! With the tyres at 110 it glided over the worn-out top-dressing and broken up surfaces like a magic carpet. For the first time in ages I didn't get neck and back ache and since the riding position is identical to the old bike I have to conclude that the smoother ride is the reason.

Best of all is the cornering and the downhill ride; it corners superbly, much more confidence-inspiring than the old Roubaix and on fast twisty downhills it turned me into a proper hooligan. The Sora brakes are stiff and heavy but when they do bite the bike scrubs off speed very securely, presumably thanks to the stiffer front end. The 2006 Roubaix has simple cylindrical frame tubes and is more akin to a traditional steel or ali frame in the way it looks whereas the 2012 version has masses of material around the BB and head tube, which contributes to the laterally stiffer frame and more stable cornering and handling.

Assuming an SL3 frame would be lighter and better equipped I think my mind is made up, I'm going to put my name down for one. But before I do, has anybody got any thoughts on the SL4?
 

ColinJ

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Assuming an SL3 frame would be lighter and better equipped I think my mind is made up, I'm going to put my name down for one. But before I do, has anybody got any thoughts on the SL4?
How about "Go on - you know you want to"! :thumbsup:
 

mark st1

Plastic Manc
Is it as smooth as the SL3 to ride? Presumably lighter?


Just out of interest do you do alot of riding that warrants a Roubaix ? I have an SL3 Tarmac and it has gone through everything the roads around here London, London to Brighton, London to Southend (ish) can throw at it mega comfy and outstandingly responsive. Just an option for you to ponder :biggrin:
 
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Globalti

Globalti

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Interesting thought. The roads around here are probably no worse than anywhere else. I have tried a couple of Tarmacs and thought the handling was superb; I'd also be willing to bet the position on a Tarmac isn't much different from a Roubaix, would I be right?

(Worth consideration because at 57 I do find and head down/arse in the air position uncomfortable!)
 

Mr Haematocrit

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The roubaix has a different rear end to the tarmac to get the zerts in. This results in a softer and more compliment rear however it is slightly less stiff than the tarmac and does not turn in as well if your chucking the bike around. So your choice is extreme comfort or extreme turn in performance and handling, the front ends of the bikes are very similar though as are the geometry (seat stays with zerts are the difference)
The SL3 increases stiffness over the SL2 and features a one piece bottoms bracket with a superior weight/stiffness ratio.
The difference between the SL2 and SL3 are light and day IMHO the bike just feels so much more finished.. The SL4 keeps the characteristics of the SL3 although it is claimed to be stiffer I can't tell. The SL4 features a noticeably shorter head tube which gives the bike a racier feel than the SL3
If your not a balls out racer, slamming the stem and spending a lot of time on the drops, then the SL3 is a great bike and you can get a hell of a lot more for your money than a SL4.

both the roubaix and tarmac are great bikes IMHO and a joy to own, if your local to London your welcome to have a go on my SL4
 

mark st1

Plastic Manc
What he said. Id go for the Tarmac personally ive never ridden a bike that just begs you to ride it faster and harder until i rode a Tarmac. The bottom bracket stiffness is awesome even with a heffa like me cranking the pedals.
 
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Globalti

Globalti

Legendary Member
I took a short test ride on a Tarmac SL4 Pro and although the handling was razor sharp and the ride firm but not punishing, I found the headset very low indeed and after a very short time my hands were beginning to feel the pressure. I am 57, not 27!
 

mark st1

Plastic Manc
Age is just a number :thumbsup: as Mr H said above the SL4 is slightly more harsher than the SL3. Not sure how easy an SL3 is to source though ?

What frame size are you ?
 
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Globalti

Globalti

Legendary Member
My frame size is 56, I'm assured there's plenty of stock in the UK although one LBS owner has told me there's a shortage and a new FCL is arriving next week.

Roubaix Comp and Elite are compacts, Roubaix Sport comes in a choice of compact or triple and the base Roubaix is compact.

I think I'm heading towards an SL3 Comp at the moment. I'll put my Ksyrium SLs on it and put the new wheels on the old 2006 Roubaix and use it for winter.
 

Mr Haematocrit

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You can still buy the SL3 frame set, discounted massively in Concept Stores.... Saw my local one sell a brand new SL3 S-Works Roubaix frame set today for £1500 which is not bad considering just over a year ago these were £2600 - So the non-works frames I would think would be a bargain.
Head over to your local concept store, they can list what's in every store in the UK and what's available globally and get it shipped

There are also brand new SL2 frame available if you want one.
 

grumpyoldgit

Über Member
I took a short test ride on a Tarmac SL4 Pro and although the handling was razor sharp and the ride firm but not punishing, I found the headset very low indeed and after a very short time my hands were beginning to feel the pressure. I am 57, not 27!
I am 58,59 next month.Age is not the barrier.
 
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