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Chris S

Legendary Member
Location
Birmingham
My Raleigh Chiltern had terminal corrosion so I bought another frame from my LBS for £10. It came from a Raleigh Routier, a 10-speed road bike with 700c wheels. However it's dimensions were exactly the same as my 1989 Chiltern. Everything just swapped straight over, I didn't even have to adjust the toggle-chain.

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wafter

I like steel bikes and I cannot lie..
Location
Oxford
Nice work!

What size tyres are you running? I can only just get away with 32s on mine, so if you're planning on fitting guards you might have to downsize a bit. Would be interesting to see a square, side-on shot for comparison to mine as I've never been sure if my fork's bent..
 
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Chris S

Chris S

Legendary Member
Location
Birmingham
I'm using 38mm tyres with my 590mm wheels. That gives a 666mm total wheel diameter, compared to 668mm with the original 622mm wheels and 23mm tyres. Your forks don't look much different from mine.

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wafter

I like steel bikes and I cannot lie..
Location
Oxford
I'm using 38mm tyres with my 590mm wheels. That gives a 666mm total wheel diameter, compared to 668mm with the original 622mm wheels and 23mm tyres. Your forks don't look much different from mine.

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Ahh, cool - thanks for the pic - I'd concur that the fork looks pretty similar to mine... which is reassuring :smile:

So you're running 650B wheels...?
 

wafter

I like steel bikes and I cannot lie..
Location
Oxford
650A (590mm). 650B are 584mm, they were used on old French roadsters before they were adopted by gravel bikers.

Cheers - 650B was as close as I could get with standard wheels... surely your Chiltern didn't come with 650As? That's properly esoteric!
 
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Chris S

Chris S

Legendary Member
Location
Birmingham
surely your Chiltern didn't come with 650As? That's properly esoteric!

Yes - Raleigh used them on some Nottingham models until they stopped production in the 1990s.
 

wafter

I like steel bikes and I cannot lie..
Location
Oxford
Yes - Raleigh used them on some Nottingham models until they stopped production in the 1990s.

Crikey; didn't even know that was a thing - I thought 26", 27" and 700c pretty much had everything covered..
 

dicko

Guru
Location
Derbyshire
My Raleigh Chiltern had terminal corrosion so I bought another frame from my LBS for £10. It came from a Raleigh Routier, a 10-speed road bike with 700c wheels. However it's dimensions were exactly the same as my 1989 Chiltern. Everything just swapped straight over, I didn't even have to adjust the toggle-chain.

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My first ‘Racing Bike’ was a Raleigh Routier.
 
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