SMIDSY or SMIDBL?

[Mr Celine]

If the selfish twunt in the Range Rover had bothered to indicate she would have had plenty of time to pull out.

 

[Tynan]

an awful lot of road users don't expect to see anything filtering between lanes and that's in London where an awful lot does filter, you run the risk of being in a bit of a dead zone where no-one looks, one of the reasons I don't like filtering between two lines of moving traffic

 

[PK99]

Oh so that's what the B stands for

Knowing that junction she probably seized on the opportunity of a gap without thinking that there may be traffic behind the RR. Idiot.

in my reading of the video there were two errors:

1 Diver pulled out without proper observation

2 Cyclist overtook turning vehicle



In that situation, I would had seen the car waiting to emerge and slowed, behind the turning vehicle, anticipating the potential error by the emerging driver - the error being to know there was no car going to fill the space but not anticipating the cyclist.

It's similar to failing the advanced driving test by overtaking on a straight road opposite a t junction by failing to anticipate the potential error of the car in front not indicating

 

[Origamist]

in my reading of the video there were two errors:

1 Diver pulled out without proper observation

2 Cyclist overtook turning vehicle



In that situation, I would had seen the car waiting to emerge and slowed, behind the turning vehicle, anticipating the potential error by the emerging driver - the error being to know there was no car going to fill the space but not anticipating the cyclist.

It's similar to failing the advanced driving test by overtaking on a straight road opposite a t junction by failing to anticipate the potential error of the car in front not indicating

2 errors? The Range Rover did not indicate either! It's also over 7ft wide and could obscure a small car too...

It's tight whether he was actually overtaking the RR at the junction, but IMO it had completed its manoeuvre and exited the carriageway.

Magnatom could have ridden a bit more circumspectly/defensively, but the fundamental misjudgment was the driver joining the carriageway, followed by the lack of indication from the RR. As it was, Magnatom was still in a position to avoid the incident, although it was on the limit of his braking, given the conditions.

 

[eddiemee]

I had a similar near miss a few weeks ago, though in that case the driver claimed that the headlights of the car behind me had dazzled him so he couldn't see me (to which my response was 'Why did you pull out if you were dazzled?').

I managed to brake safely about 18 inches from his driver side door. Apart from the initial shout I remained calm, shook my head and waved him on. He happened to pull in 50 yards up the road so I stopped for a chat (no swearing, no raised voices, just a sensible discussion). I pointed out to him that he had pulled out and nearly knocked me off, he accepted this and apologised. I did press him as to why he had pulled out when his excuse for not seeing me was that he was dazzled, and again he accepted that this was poor driving. All in all I felt the guy had a momentary lapse rather than being a twunt. Hopefully he'll remember our chat and be slightly safer next time.

 

[Coco]

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2 Cyclist overtook turning vehicle

Looks to me like he keeps in the same line when he has gone past the RR, as he did when following it. Is that overtaking? (a genuine question)


And I just heard it for the first time (don't like to listen when at work) and I'm ditching my Airsoundz

 

[magnatom]

Looks to me like he keeps in the same line when he has gone past the RR, as he did when following it. Is that overtaking? (a genuine question)


And I just heard it for the first time (don't like to listen when at work) and I'm ditching my Airsoundz

Indeed. I didn't overtake at all. I didn't even know that the RR was turning until it actually did.

Tynan, my filtering had absolutely nothing to do with this. As the traffic was moving, I pulled in and was no longer filtering. I was fully in the lane.

 

[magnatom]

It's similar to failing the advanced driving test by overtaking on a straight road opposite a t junction by failing to anticipate the potential error of the car in front not indicating

I think you failed in your observation skills. Unless you can point out at what point I overtake the RR.

 

[potsy]

I can't see any problem with Magnatoms riding here at all-
plenty in some of his other vids mind

 

[magnatom]

Indeed, perfect line filtering through the traffic joined in primary when the traffic started to move a bit but still stayed in a position to see ahead and give a bit of room should a car pull out woithout looking.

You could say that you could have gone a wee bit slower but that's bollox imo becuause you managed to stop in time. Needless to say though the driver simply didn't look.

Your just saying that because you want to be my friend!

 

[hackbike 666]

I honestly don't think she did on this occasion. I had a feeling about her and I was watching her. She just didn't look after the RR had turned off. That's why I didn't accelerate too much and why I managed to stop in time.

I would have loved this in a way.If I was ready for it my finger would have been over the horn button and she would have 5h1t it.

Always go with your safety first.You had a feeling the moton is going to do something dodgy,you were wary.I get these at times and usually they are right.

 

[BentMikey]

Indeed, perfect line filtering through the traffic joined in primary when the traffic started to move a bit but still stayed in a position to see ahead and give a bit of room should a car pull out woithout looking.

You could say that you could have gone a wee bit slower but that's bollox imo becuause you managed to stop in time. Needless to say though the driver simply didn't look.

+1 to the first bit. The second just shows how well Magnatom did to leave enough space (just), but also how we all tend not to leave as much extra space as we should in these conditions.

 

[magnatom]

It seems this video has attracted the usual suspects on youtube!

 

[swee'pea99]

I have to say, I was initially struck by the speed of filtering through the moving traffic. Felt risky to me...faster than I would do it. Nothing to do with the actual incident itself, but...

 

[lazyfatgit]

I think the camera sometimes makes it hard to judge speed. I know on my attempts at video I feel that I'm moving faster on vid than I actually was. Stuff also gets a bit closer too I think.