So it begins...

[ebikeerwidnes]

No. They do not broadcast.


If it is broadcast simultaneously, yes.


Nope. Unless watching the "live" section of ITV player.

For on-demand,iIt is specifically only BBC streaming service.



It is actually perfectly workable, but very difficult to enforce.

And it is tricky for members of the public to work out directly from the legislation just what you need a licence for.

Thanks - that is a bit clearer

still confused about what the difference is between watching GCN+ live cycling - and NOT needing a license
and watching live Indy car streamed from the US


anyway - just to be clear we have a license - before they come knocking at my door!!!

 

[Alex321]

Thanks - that is a bit clearer

still confused about what the difference is between watching GCN+ live cycling - and NOT needing a license
and watching live Indy car streamed from the US


anyway - just to be clear we have a license - before they come knocking at my door!!!

Apart from BBC streaming services it is all about whether the programme is broadcast over the air (including satellite or cable) simultaneously with streaming - whether it can actually be received over the air in the UK or not.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

Thanks - that is a bit clearer

no wonder people say they didn;t think they needed a license and then get done for it

also makes it very clear that you should never let them in because the possibility that you mayhave got it wrong are there
or - more likely - that the person saying you have got it wrong will have it wrong themselves and create a load of hassle for you


which is what they want because that makes people just get a license because they are not sur eif they need one or not

 

[SpokeyDokey]

I've always had a licence and haven't seen one of these letters before. I'm surprised it refers to "all TV services" and includes the likes of Sky and Amazon. I thought the licence only applied to the BBC and possibly ITV. I have questions:

Does TV services include films or documentaries commissioned by the likes of Netflix, Disney etc? Programming where the subscriber is contributing to the cost via subscription?

People who pay a small fortune to view PL football and other sport are included?

The next remark is not intended to question peoples' honesty. To those who say they don't need a licence do you truly never watch any content that is a TV service? This must be extraordinarily difficult in this day and age? I genuinely wouldn't know how to determine what I can or cannot watch. How does one achieve this?

No live anything watched here.

We only use Netflix, Amazon Prime & YT.

Another household that does not turn the TV on by default. It only goes on to watch specific content.

Spotify, Kindle and the lost art of actually talking to each other rules here.

 

[PaulSB]

@Drago @Alex321 thanks both. I feel much better informed now than 24 hours ago.

 

[briantrumpet]

No live anything watched here.

We only use Netflix, Amazon Prime & YT.

Another household that does not turn the TV on by default. It only goes on to watch specific content.

Spotify, Kindle and the lost art of actually talking to each other rules here.

Internet radio here most of the time. I don't need pictures with everything.

There were two or three things I used to watch via internet/iPlayer while it was still OK without a licence - HIGNFY, and Countdown, but they weren't enough to justify getting a licence for. If ever I was staying with my mum, I'd scan Radio Times, and realise there was nothing I wanted to watch.

And (genuinely) I haven't been able to watch TV news since The Day Today, as Chris Morris's savage satire opened my eyes to the fact that virtually all TV news is just entertainment that feeds off controversy, misery and gore: the more the better. It loves Trump, it loves Gaza. I really do think it is a pernicious influence.