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Cubist

Still wavin'
Location
Ovver 'thill
knonist said:
May I ask, what is a primary position?

Indded you may, and I'll answer before anyone else decides to flame you!

A cyclist should, according to the great manual Cyclecraft (worth ordering from Smiths etc) a cyclist should spend most of the time in Secondary Position, ie approximately a meter from the kerb (but avoiding drain covers debris etc opinions vary!0
When negotiating hazards, for example a pinch point where there would simply not be sufficient room for a car to overtake between you and a bollard island, a cyclist should move into the middle of the carriageway,(primary position) effectively discouraging any attempts to share the space with you.

Unfortunately, this leads to the wasting of perhaps two seconds of a motorist's time, and because a cyclist doesn't pay road tax, they have the right to abuse you, squirt water at you, swipe you with newspapers etc. Queen Victoria was the first proponant of this attitude. Held up on the Mall by Mr Disraeli on his velocipede, she is believed to have been the first recorded person to use the phrase "bearded cock-jockey" in public.
 

Arch

Married to Night Train
Location
Salford, UK
Cubist said:
A cyclist should, according to the great manual Cyclecraft (worth ordering from Smiths etc) a cyclist should spend most of the time in Secondary Position, ie approximately a meter from the kerb (but avoiding drain covers debris etc opinions vary!0

I just skim read that as "but avoiding drain covers, debris and onions".

Are onions a big hazard down your way?:smile:
 

silverbow

New Member
Location
Suffolk
Arch said:
I just skim read that as "but avoiding drain covers, debris and onions".

Are onions a big hazard down your way?:biggrin:

They are here at the moment (onions that is) as they are being harvested and transported to store by the McLaren tractor company, who lose the odd half a ton en route, usually on corners and bumpy bits!!!
 

Cubist

Still wavin'
Location
Ovver 'thill
Onions? I'm currently packing all the boring old cheese sandwiches I own in a new pair of panniers, and am heading for Suffolk as we speak. B)
 
Cubist said:
Queen Victoria was the first proponant of this attitude. Held up on the Mall by Mr Disraeli on his velocipede, she is believed to have been the first recorded person to use the phrase "bearded cock-jockey" in public.
Are you quite sure about that? I was always taught at school, that Good Queen Vick fancied Dear Dizzy something rotten: it was that narsty grumpy Mr. Glad she had it in for....
 
ComedyPilot said:
...if you can get a number plate, time, date, location desc of driver, it gives the bobby ammo to throw at the idiot when stopped.
Don't forget colour of vehicle: make too, if you can get it. I was told, on the occasion when I reported an 'incident', that it my saying that it was a 'red car' that set the coppers to taking me seriously...
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
661-Pete said:
Don't forget colour of vehicle: make too, if you can get it. I was told, on the occasion when I reported an 'incident', that it my saying that it was a 'red car' that set the coppers to taking me seriously...

Yes, false plates.
 

Cubist

Still wavin'
Location
Ovver 'thill
661-Pete said:
Are you quite sure about that? I was always taught at school, that Good Queen Vick fancied Dear Dizzy something rotten: it was that narsty grumpy Mr. Glad she had it in for....

No, abusing Dizzy was a cover for the fact she fancied him. The lycra morning coat did the business for her.

Not that she reserved all her abuse for Dizzy.The one occasion she was heard to publicly abuse Gladstone was when she called him a "baldy fudge-packer" at the state opening of parliament in 1889
 
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