Sometimes, principle forces you to say

[PaulB]

We have a holiday abroad booked for mid-October and I got an e-mail this morning from the idiot we keep on as manager telling me 'You are not allowed to have those dates on holiday as we have booked a meeting for which you need to be in head office.'

I pondered it for a while and e-mailed him back saying that I will be having those dates on holiday and as far as I'm concerned, he can do what he needs to do about it.

One additional thing is that we are not allowed to take any holiday time in the third month of any quarter (March, June, September and December are off limits) and this is why I didn't book for this month. October is a preferred month to take holidays so why all this? It's mad.

It will pan out as it does but if he thinks I'm going to cancel precious family holiday time to run around with my tongue up his rectum, he can swivel.

 

[philipbh]

Presumably, the date you boked your holiday takes precedent over the date the meeting was booked?

 

[Fran143]

Quite right too, they are "your" holidays to be taken at a suitable time to yourself and you accomodate the company by not taking them in the third quarter so the problem is.......some bl**dy jobsworth that needs to get a life!

 

[661-Pete]

Time to check your Contract of Employment, if you have one, and your employer's handbook, etc. etc. I would have thought, if there's a formal booking procedure for annual leave (there is in my place), and the company had already approved your request, they can't renege on the agreement. Not without paying compensation, that is.

But, nowhere at my workplace do we have the 'right' to book leave at any time we like. It has to be requested and approved - and occasionally requests are denied.

But if you have something in writing confirming your request - use it!

 

[philipbh]

Quite right too, they are "your" holidays to be taken at a suitable time to yourself and you accomodate the company by not taking them in the third quarter so the problem is.......some bl**dy jobsworth that needs to get a life!

Well, up to a point..

I assume that the company procedure (if there is one) was followed and that approval for the holiday was sought / given before the holiday was booked

Even then, the company is within its rights to withdraw the approval provided that 1. it shows that it is necessary and 2. reimburses the cost of incurred of cancellation / re arrangement

 

[ChrisKH]

Well, up to a point..

I assume that the company procedure (if there is one) was followed and that approval for the holiday was sought / given before the holiday was booked

Even then, the company is within its rights to withdraw the approval provided that 1. it shows that it is necessary and 2. reimburses the cost of incurred of cancellation / re arrangement

+1

It never ceases to amaze me how many people book holidays first then apply for time off.

 

[Moodyman]

Surely you booked your holiday after getting a nod from your line manager?

If, after this nod, they now want you in, then they haven't got a leg to stand on.

If, on the other hand, you've booked without checking with them.....then....I think you've got yourself to blame.

 

[Over The Hill]

Is the boss keen on getting rid of you perhaps? If so are you walking into his trap.

Some years ago when I worked for a well known retailer (who sold "crap") if a member of staff fell out of favour they would be moved to a branch in south wales or some such mess around until they left.

 

[Globalti]

Meetings are held by weak bosses who haven't got a clue what they're doing and want a committee to make decisions for them.

I have a very decisive, experienced boss who trusts me entirely to run things my way; we almost never have meetings; maybe three a year.

 

[PaulB]

Meetings are held by weak bosses who haven't got a clue what they're doing and want a committee to make decisions for them.

Spot on. These meetings are uniformly worthless and an utter waste of time, It's like justifying their status and gives them something to chair as they like to be seen as 'in charge' and lurve to have a title to polish. The other infuriating thing is that I am the only one Northern based so all meetings are held for his, and their, convenience, in the south! And, amazingly enough, they are always geographically close to him! Imagine my amazement!

The other thing is that I haven't taken any holiday time this year so far (our year ends in December, too, not March) so I think he's being arsey and flexing his managerial muscles. I honestly see one of the two of us not here by the end of October.

I'll happily go head to head against him with this one.

 

[downfader]

Funny story about a manager in my place:

This manager decided to moan at two members of staff, that their efforts were lacking on a particular day.. The trouble is both these lads had come in sick. They really should not have been at work imo, yet they still worked hard and got the job done. They didnt complain either.

Now two days later said manager comes down with something. She comes into work and starts moaning about how unwell she feels, and oddly has the same symptoms as the lads - who she had "persuaded" to come into work oddly. Within two hours of her being there and constantly winging she went to push a trolley with about 40 plates on out of her way and the effort made her projectile vomit all over it and the floor.

 

[davefb]

Spot on. These meetings are uniformly worthless and an utter waste of time, It's like justifying their status and gives them something to chair as they like to be seen as 'in charge' and lurve to have a title to polish. The other infuriating thing is that I am the only one Northern based so all meetings are held for his, and their, convenience, in the south! And, amazingly enough, they are always geographically close to him! Imagine my amazement!

The other thing is that I haven't taken any holiday time this year so far (our year ends in December, too, not March) so I think he's being arsey and flexing his managerial muscles. I honestly see one of the two of us not here by the end of October.

I'll happily go head to head against him with this one.

hmm

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/Timeoffandholidays/DG_10034711
"Your employer can refuse permission for your holiday as long as they give you notice which is at least as long as the holiday requested. So to refuse a request for a week's leave, they would have to tell you a week in advance."

must admit, thats not what i thought i'd find !! I'd check your employment contract and speak to HR as they also have to allow you take all your holidays and as you say he's just being an idiot.. ( though i used to work for a clown like that )