Sometimes you just can't stop at the red light

[Miquel In De Rain]

unsure of the significance of that but I'm not in the East Midlands.

LOLOLOL!

Could I have avoided this one? I could have easily avoided this one if I peddled faster from the get go

Sold to the man with the helmet cam.(that rhymes)

 

[gaz]

A ridiculous question.

First of all I approach all lights with caution - their mere presence is indicative of danger, be it a crossing, junction or whatever.

And if it flicks to amber I start slowing down with a view to stopping in a progressive, predictable manner - not tilting at it flat out then having to worry about stopping on a sixpence with the vehicle behind me anally invading me.

I see you are forgetting about the tipper truck less than 1 second behind you.
A truck which is showing no signs of slowing. Good luck stopping in front of that.

 

[BentMikey]

unsure of the significance of that but I'm not in the East Midlands.

LOL, it was a joke. On twitter the chap is a fairly rabid sort of motorist and anti-cyclist. I know he's not you.

 

[BentMikey]

A ridiculous question.

First of all I approach all lights with caution - their mere presence is indicative of danger, be it a crossing, junction or whatever.

And if it flicks to amber I start slowing down with a view to stopping in a progressive, predictable manner - not tilting at it flat out then having to worry about stopping on a sixpence with the vehicle behind me anally invading me.

Can I point out that Gaz at 20mph is far from "tilting it flat out". On that bit of road, which I know well, it's a comfortable and easy cruising speed for him.

I'm still amazed how you'd try to slow down the tipper lorry with your bike in this situation. Really, that puts you into an extreme risk-taker category. If you knew the sorts of extreme sports many of my friends do, then you'd also know I'm not giving that prize lightly.

 

[Miquel In De Rain]

I see you are forgetting about the tipper truck less than 1 second behind you.
A truck which is showing no signs of slowing. Good luck stopping in front of that.

Gaz is right IMHO,can you trust everyone behind the wheel of a vehicle?

 

[craven2354]

6 pages on whether a cyclist or tipper truck run a red am I missing the point? Or is it as ridiculous as it sounds

 

[Hip Priest]

I've not read the whole thread, but in my view Gaz made the right choice. He was being tailgated by a heavy vehicle and made the split second decision to jump the red and avoid a potential collision. I'd have made the same decision.

 

[400bhp]

I had home made chicken soup for tea.

 

[arghill]

My personal gut instinct watching the video would have been to stop as soon as the yellow started.

However I do not drive in big city traffic so I can understand that may be considered wrong by those more experienced on here.

I figure if you got T-Boned going through the red it's going to be viewed as your own fault for RLJ if someone smacks you.


I am interested to know if the helmet cameras miss things because I can see the view tilt (logically your head shoulder checking) but do not see the lorry from that cam. Is your eye view different to what the camera catches because of the angle ?


I have just noticed something else (on the 5th viewing!). There was another bike quite a way back from you, behind the truck and looks to have jumped it much later

 

[gaz]

[QUOTE 2177406, member: 45"]There's seven seconds between the start of the rear-view clip and the solid white line.

Would this be enough time to slow down safely?[/quote]
And for 5 seconds of those 7 seconds, the light was green.

 

[gaz]

[QUOTE 2177613, member: 45"]Maybe, but that doesn't answer my question.[/quote]
Yes. Your question is irrelevant.

 

[campbellab]

Yes. Your question is irrelevant.

If you take the traffic light out of it, and you have a lorry tailgating you, what would your strategy be, presuming you cant move lanes to let them pass?

 

[BentMikey]

20mph is going fast in a 30mph limit where most vehicles floor it to get through that junction, and where a tipper lorry driver is already displaying signs of impatience?

What speed do you suggest Gaz slows down to in that situation, Mr P?

 

[gaz]

[QUOTE 2177866, member: 45"]I don't think that it is. It's about whether you could have avoided having to make a split second decision by anticipation. If you were aware of a truck right on your tail and had at least six seconds before you got to a stop line where a light could be about to change might it have been a safer option to slow earlier thus avoiding what happened in the clip?[/quote]
Obviously slowing down gradually is better than stopping quickly.
Could I have done that in this situation? I can't comment, this happened several months ago and I can't recall when I became aware of the driver on my arse. It may have only been several meters before the stop line.

 

[BentMikey]

20mph is going fast in a 30mph limit where most vehicles floor it to get through that junction, and where a tipper lorry driver is already displaying signs of impatience?

What speed do you suggest Gaz slows down to in that situation, Mr P?

Not only to what speed should he slow, but where in the video?