Sovereign Citizens.

[classic33]

Yep, and in 13 states its illegal to shoot or harm me.

Were you in the Leeds area about 25 years ago?

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

Can I just point out that until I get my reading glasses drago's avatar makes me think he's got the old fashioned police helmet on and is a naked, hairy individual. I just wonder how far he'd get on duty in a grill suit, assuming he actually needs the suit of course.

Sorry for the digression.

OK - well thanks for the mental image!

 

[Emanresu]

The 'sovereign' idea has been around for a while. Jacob Rees-Mogg's dad wrote a book about it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sovereign_Individual

It is also a thread running through the various court cases against Trump as he is a firm believer in the parts that might apply to him (and get him off).

 

[Drago]

Jacob Rees-Mogg's dad wrote a book about it.

Yes, I've read it.

 

[steverob]

The sovereign citizen movement has been around in the UK for ages but it gained a lot of popularity during the Covid lockdowns when certain gullible people started believing anything they read on the internet and thought that they could keep their businesses open by mis-quoting parts of the Magna Carta to the police when they came to shut them down.

Of course it had absolutely no basis in law and they lost all their court cases and got huge amounts of fines, but like @Time Waster said above, when you're arguing with someone who believes that they are right even when all evidence shows they are not, it doesn't matter to them, they'll carry on believing regardless - they're like the legal equivalent of flat earthers.

 

[Emanresu]

they're like the legal equivalent of flat earthers.

Would make cycling easier though. Hate those hills but do love the downside.