Specialised Tricross sport.

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ACS

Legendary Member
Had the canti's replaced on my 09 Sport with mini v's. No judder at all, in fact I would go as far to say the stopping power has increase slightly, more noticable in the wet than dry.
 

Jacquiboy

New Member
Tricross Sport Front Hangar Problem

Hi

I bought the Kong front hangar to install on my Specialized Tricross Sport and have located the hole I think it goes through (just above the forks). The screw supplied with it seems to be too short to go through the hangar and the hole in the forks though. Am I being stupid or has anyone else had similar problems? The picture of the installed hangar on this forum doesn't show the nut side of the screw. I take it I would have to also buy a new, longer outer brake cable?

Thanks
Jack
 

Paul_Smith SRCC

www.plsmith.co.uk
Location
Surrey UK
Jacquiboy said:
Hi

I bought the Kong front hangar to install on my Specialized Tricross Sport and have located the hole I think it goes through (just above the forks). The screw supplied with it seems to be too short to go through the hangar and the hole in the forks though. Am I being stupid or has anyone else had similar problems? The picture of the installed hangar on this forum doesn't show the nut side of the screw. I take it I would have to also buy a new, longer outer brake cable?

Thanks
Jack

The Tricross has a deep crown so with the Uphanger I mentioned then yes you will need a long bolt and a longer cable, as the cable stop is further down than it was initially.


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Paul_Smith
www.corridori.co.uk
 

Jacquiboy

New Member
Thanks Paul! I fitted the uphanger and bought new cable sets but had problems fitting the new housing so took it to one of the big national bike stores, big mistake! They ended up fitting the cable back through the original fitting even though I explicitly told them (and it was marked on the order form) to fit it through the uphanger. Their mechanic said the uphanger wouldn't make a difference and we had a fairly heated debate about it so I ended up just leaving the store with my bike.

Having seen that the 2010 model now also uses an uphanger and reading the testomonials here I'm determined to get it fitted. One question though if anyone can help. Does the cable ferrel just sit in the uphanger or is it attached somehow? I know the original fitting has a screwed fitting but can't see any secure fitting from Paul's picture and the uphanger's not threaded. If I can't get it fitted I may try a local bike shop who listen to what the customer wants.

Thanks!
Jack
 

Paul_Smith SRCC

www.plsmith.co.uk
Location
Surrey UK
Jacquiboy said:
Thanks Paul! I fitted the uphanger and bought new cable sets but had problems fitting the new housing so took it to one of the big national bike stores, big mistake! They ended up fitting the cable back through the original fitting even though I explicitly told them (and it was marked on the order form) to fit it through the uphanger. Their mechanic said the uphanger wouldn't make a difference and we had a fairly heated debate about it so I ended up just leaving the store with my bike.

Having seen that the 2010 model now also uses an uphanger and reading the testomonials here I'm determined to get it fitted. One question though if anyone can help. Does the cable ferrel just sit in the uphanger or is it attached somehow? I know the original fitting has a screwed fitting but can't see any secure fitting from Paul's picture and the uphanger's not threaded. If I can't get it fitted I may try a local bike shop who listen to what the customer wants.

Thanks!
Jack

The cable ferrel just sits in the hanger like a cable stop, you can always use inline cable adjusters should you want; (click for a link to a review of inline cable adjuster, note old review, RRP now £6.99)



Paul_Smith
www.corridori.co.uk
 

captainzeb

New Member
Hello: Would it be possible to post a pic of the entire front end of your tricross, including the drops? I will be retrofitting the uphanger to mine once it arrives (in weeks?) here in Canada from the UK, and I would like an idea of the overall look.

Thanks,
Brent

Paul_Smith SRCC said:
Chris Juden of the CTC is familiar with this problem:

“The main cause of this problem is flex in the steerer tube, plus a contribution from the fork crown and the top few inches of fork blade. With the cable hanger at the top of that tube, any flex due to application of the brake tightens the cable and puts the brake on even harder. In moderation this is a very handy servo effect. In excess it causes judder. Changing to a design of cantilever with less mechanical advantage reduces the servo effect and may remove the judder, or not.

The most effective and the cheapest solution is to re-locate the cable hanger to the fork crown, taking the flexible carbon steerer tube out of the loop. You need an "uphanger" like this:

Available from any bike shop that has an account with Fisher Outdoor Leisure (most do) and can be ordered via their website, enter product code BP1272F”

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www.corridori.co.uk
 
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Read this thread with interest as I have a 2 year old Pearson Touche with Tektro dual pivot brakes and at times i have had judder problems. Starts about 20mph then disappears once I am below 15mph. Bikes in good condition, no obvious problems, never found the cause or a permanant cure. Seems to be a one off, never found any reference to to this on the web.
 

l4dva

Guru
Location
Sunny Brum!
I have just had that up hanger fitted onto my tricross. Its brilliant, no judder wat so ever now!

My LBS were going to put Mini V's on but they couldn't for some reason (the shape of the fork wouldn't allow for them to fit apparently), so they put a up hanger on for me instead. All under the warentee so happy days!

My only issue is that I don't have the barrel adjuster that you use to pull the cable which pulls the pads closer to the rim. They said they will fit a in line cable adjuster for me, so i'll be able to set my breaks up close to the rim so they are nice and sharp!
 

Jacquiboy

New Member
I have managed to now fit the uphanger to my Tricross Sport 09 and am delighted to report I was able to enjoy a shudder free commute this morning! Thanks very much Paul for your photos and advice.
 

moolarb

Active Member
I have a similar problem on my Trek CX bike with cantis and carbon forks.

Is front brake judder dangerous or just annoying? At the moment I can live with it but if my forks are gonna snap going down a steep descent then I'll get it sorted PDQ
 

Paul_Smith SRCC

www.plsmith.co.uk
Location
Surrey UK
captainzeb said:
Hello: Would it be possible to post a pic of the entire front end of your tricross, including the drops? I will be retrofitting the uphanger to mine once it arrives (in weeks?) here in Canada from the UK, and I would like an idea of the overall look.

Thanks,
Brent

I have just taken these this morning for you (and the shop site), not my bike but our mechanics, ex national Cyclo Cross champion Brian Curtis (pic taken before uphanger fitted)

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Hope these help.


Paul_Smith
www.corridori.co.uk
 
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