Speedwatch group more alarmed by cyclists than speeding cars...

[Bonefish Blues]

All within a small area, that doesn't cover all the parish.

... which has a single concentration of population, by the looks of it. Let's be sensible.

 

[tom73]

So bikes doing less than the speed limit (which doesn't apply to them), are more dangerous than cars exceeding the speed limit that does apply to them?

Not forgetting " lots of bare flesh" we seamingly flash as we speed past

 

[chriscross1966]

So bikes doing less than the speed limit (which doesn't apply to them), are more dangerous than cars exceeding the speed limit that does apply to them?

The speed limits do apply if the bike is being actively pedalled (not freewheeling down a hill) from memory the offense is something like "cycling furiously"

 

[palinurus]

“...perhaps more alarming were the cyclists who on average came past the bus stop at between 30 to 35mph,”

*rubs chin* Jimmy Hill.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

The speed limits do apply if the bike is being actively pedalled (not freewheeling down a hill) from memory the offense is something like "cycling furiously"

I'm afraid that's wrong on all counts.

Speed limits do not apply to cycles (excepting Royal Parks) and there is no offence of cycling furiously. You may be thinking of the offence for which Charlie Alliston was convicted after he struck and killed a pedestrian, Kim Briggs, which was the offence of furious driving. Note that this offence is only applicable when the furious driving results in bodily injury to a third party.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/24-25/100/section/35

 

[chriscross1966]

I'm afraid that's wrong on all counts.

Speed limits do not apply to cycles (excepting Royal Parks) and there is no offence of cycling furiously. You may be thinking of the offence for which Charlie Alliston was convicted after he struck and killed a pedestrian, Kim Briggs, which was the offence of furious driving. Note that this offence is only applicable when the furious driving results in bodily injury to a third party.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/24-25/100/section/35

I was thinking of the 1847 Town Police Clauses Act,
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/10-11/89
which mentions nuicance caused by driving or riding furiously, and by precedent that has (a very long time ago) been applied to bicycles...

 

[DaveReading]

I was thinking of the 1847 Town Police Clauses Act,
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/10-11/89
which mentions nuisance caused by driving or riding furiously, and by precedent that has (a very long time ago) been applied to bicycles...

I can't see any mention of a distinction between pedalling or freewheeling there.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

I was thinking of the 1847 Town Police Clauses Act,
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/10-11/89
which mentions nuicance caused by driving or riding furiously, and by precedent that has (a very long time ago) been applied to bicycles...

Sorry that link points to a whole load of stuff including chimneys catching fire. Did not find this furious bit can you indicate which clause it is on that page?

 

[LCpl Boiled Egg]

*rubs chin* Jimmy Hill.

Indeed. Chinny reck-on.

 

[jarlrmai]

https://www.strava.com/segments/2418017

Looks like the road has steep grade so 30+mph is not out of the question going downhill.

 

[Aravis]

https://www.strava.com/segments/2418017

Looks like the road has steep grade so 30+mph is not out of the question going downhill.

As the fastest times for the whole 1.74km of that segment average at over 40mph, evidently not!

The finishing line is about 75 metres beyond this bridge, opposite the entrance to the village stores:

 

[LCpl Boiled Egg]

https://www.strava.com/segments/2418017

Looks like the road has steep grade so 30+mph is not out of the question going downhill.

I stand corrected. A shame because people don't use this enough anymore....

*rubs chin* Jimmy Hill.

 

[Bonefish Blues]

As the fastest times for the whole 1.74km of that segment average at over 40mph, evidently not!

The finishing line is about 75 metres beyond this bridge, opposite the entrance to the village stores:

View attachment 471237

A fuller picture than hitherto.

If one then looks at crashmap for the area, there have been a lot of serious accidents on that road (although only one with slight injury at that specific location, interestingly), so the sensitivity of the community can perhaps be understood.

 

[NorthernDave]

As the fastest times for the whole 1.74km of that segment average at over 40mph, evidently not!

The finishing line is about 75 metres beyond this bridge, opposite the entrance to the village stores:

View attachment 471237

Looks like you could get some air over that bridge too.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

I was thinking of the 1847 Town Police Clauses Act,
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/10-11/89
which mentions nuicance caused by driving or riding furiously, and by precedent that has (a very long time ago) been applied to bicycles...

I've been able to find only a single reference to the use of that act in relation to cycling, back in 1997.

A rider was stopped by police for doing 25mph in a 30 zone, arrested and reportedly faced a fine of £120 which he was refusing to pay. It's clear therefore that the
cyclist was not prosecuted for speeding.
Rather, the pretext for the police's action was, as you mentioned, Section 28 of the Town Police Clauses Act 1847 which refers to the furious driving or riding of any horse or carriage. However, there's no subsequent reporting that I can find of his conviction or acquittal so it may be that it never reached court.