Spiders - or Does Evolution Happen??

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OP
OP
mybike

mybike

Grumblin at Garmin on the Granny Gear

Andy_R

Hard of hearing..I said Herd of Herring..oh FFS..
Location
County Durham
I expect eyewitness testimony for science.

...ahhh. I get it now. A book burning creationist. OK, believe what you want, just don't expect the rest of us to be so....naive
 
OP
OP
mybike

mybike

Grumblin at Garmin on the Granny Gear
according to someone, without eyewitness testimoney it didn't happen....

No, without observation it isn't science

Why not? It's perfectly possible to discuss serious issues in a lighthearted cafe style without playing silly buggers. Once again, have you read the paper and would you like to chat about it, or the point raised in the OP?

Actually it's quite possible to have a serious discussion on the questions of Creation or Evolution as well. No, I haven't read the paper, I see little point.
 

winjim

Straddle the line, discord and rhyme
No, without observation it isn't science.

Actually it's quite possible to have a serious discussion on the questions of Creation or Evolution as well. No, I haven't read the paper, I see little point.
You see little point in reading the paper but have already commented on its conclusions. That seems a little backwards to me. I'm also not sure that it would be possible for us to have that serious discussion on the questions of creation or evolution. You do not seem to understand how science works or what evolution is. I don't consider that any further discussion between us on this subject would be at all productive.

I'm still not convinced you're not just trolling.
 

Tin Pot

Guru
Evidence always requires interpretation. And science is about observation.

My statement undermines your position, your statement bear no relevance to mine.

I think you are confusing eyewitnesses with observation.

They are different things.
 

Tin Pot

Guru
The spiders have varied, just as Darwin's finches do, they remained spiders so no Evolution has occurred.

Oh wait, I just found your first post -I see this is a matter of faith not science for you. Let's leave it at that.
 

Andy_R

Hard of hearing..I said Herd of Herring..oh FFS..
Location
County Durham
So what actually happened then?

No witness to evolution, so that didn't happen. No witness to God, so he doesn't exist either.
Douglas Adams cracked it with this:

"I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED"
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
 

Tin Pot

Guru
Douglas Adams cracked it with this:

"I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED"
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.

Luckily the Babel fish doesn't exist.

And stop looking!
 

winjim

Straddle the line, discord and rhyme
Hang on, is Spinney god? I suppose the other thread was evolving, but then she created this one...
 
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