Spiders - or Does Evolution Happen??

[benb]

Lenski's experiment resulted in E. coli turning into E. coli.

Ah, I see. You're one of the people who thinks that unless an antelope gives birth to a fish, evolution hasn't happened.
Scientifically and intellectually illiterate, I'm afraid.

 

[mybike]

@mybike - here is a good example. The evolution of synapsid jawbones into mammal middle ear bones. The hammer, anvil and stirrup that we find in the mammal middle ear are the same bones, repurposed, that we find in ancestral jaws.
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evograms_05 and, if that's a bit dry for you, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_mammalian_auditory_ossicles
From the latter: "The evolution of mammalian auditory ossicles is one of the most well-documented and important evolutionary events, demonstrating both numerous transitional forms as well as an excellent example of exaptation, the re-purposing of existing structures during evolution"

TBH, as you seem incapable of critically appraising evidence, I doubt you'll take any of this on board, but others might find it interesting.

How did the poor animal cope as it's jawbone moved around - how did it eat?

Sorry, I've seen it all before & I'm getting a little bored.

 

[benb]

How did the poor animal cope as it's jawbone moved around - how did it eat?

Sorry, I've seen it all before & I'm getting a little bored.

Did you even bother reading it?

 

[Dayvo]

Sorry, I've seen it all before & I'm getting a little bored.

Blimey, and you had the gall to call me a troublemaker!

 

[Spinney]

Classic troll behaviour - not worth the bother any more...

 

[Dayvo]

Classic troll behaviour - not worth the bother any more...

Nope. I'm finished here.

 

[Andy_R]

Time to lock the thread Mods.

 

[mybike]

Blimey, and you had the gall to call me a troublemaker!

I'm the one being attacked here.

 

[benb]

I'm the one being attacked here.

No, you are simply being challenged.
It's intellectually dishonest to not answer questions nor even read the evidence provided.

 

[mybike]

No, you are simply being challenged.
It's intellectually dishonest to not answer questions nor even read the evidence provided.

What evidence? And I suggest you read the Mod created OP.

Time to lock the thread Mods.

Yes please.

 

[Wafer]

What evidence?

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evograms_05

And I suggest you read the Mod created OP.

The one where you attacked the concept of evolution? Back that up with nothing, evaded questions, asked for impossible evidence while offering nothing yourself, ignorantly refuted what other have posted, such as the above link....
Yes, poor you.

 

[benb]

What evidence?

So you haven't bothered reading any of the resources people have patiently shared with you.

You're not interested in having an informed discussion. You clearly have a closed-minded position to the scientific method generally, and evolution in particular.
You have decided what the "truth" is, and you're dismissing anything that disagrees with your narrow dogma.
You're ignoring and evading questions put to you, have brought no actual coherent arguments to the discussion, and have no interest in actually discussing the evidence.

Like I said, intellectually and scientifically illiterate.
I only hope some other people reading this have found some useful information from it.

 

[Kestevan]

Look its perfectly simple.....

GOD DID IT.

Now stop thinking and get back to work.... This cathedral and all the sparkly gold candlesticks aren't going to pay for themselves you know.

 

[MontyVeda]

I used to work with a non-believer. His arguments against evolution and for intelligent design included...

• The human wrist is infinitely more complex than the watch that's strapped around it, but if i claimed the watch somehow 'made itself', you'd call me a nutter and lock me up!
• DNA is clearly a hexadecimal code, and code does not evolve!
• Where's all the intermediary species, such as a duck with half a pair of wings?
• Radio carbon dating is hugely inaccurate and cannot be relied upon by any sensible person.
  
• Why do people listen to scientists who believe their ancestor was a bowl of soup?

 

[Tin Pot]

I used to work with a non-believer. His arguments against evolution and for intelligent design included...

• The human wrist is infinitely more complex than the watch that's strapped around it, but if i claimed the watch somehow 'made itself', you'd call me a nutter and lock me up!
• DNA is clearly a hexadecimal code, and code does not evolve!
• Where's all the intermediary species, such as a duck with half a pair of wings?
• Radio carbon dating is hugely inaccurate and cannot be relied upon by any sensible person.
  
• Why do people listen to scientists who believe their ancestor was a bowl of soup?

Brilliant.