SPITFIRE !!!

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Mad Doug Biker

Master of disaster!
Location
Craggy Island
I'm not saying they cant be built, what I'm saying is why would they be built? They are not built to blueprints (90% of the size) & they are built with v6 or v8 engines. It just wouldn't be the same. Maybe it's just my pov from working on the originals.

It may not be entirely original, I'll grant you, but surely in this day and age they can make an engine which sounds the same, seeing as that is what makes you all dribble?

Oh and Replicas CAN work, just ask anyone who saw Tornado at York last week.
 

Mad Doug Biker

Master of disaster!
Location
Craggy Island
there is no way you could replicate the complexity & sheer awesomeness.



View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-LJpKoyyIU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Tell me, how do you make awesomeness?

Oh and as for the complexity? What are those things called blueprints then?
 

subaqua

What’s the point
Location
Leytonstone
maybe there is a patent holder who hasn't released the rights yet?
its likely the Hawker patents will be held by Raytheon following the merge and demerge of variuos aircraft engineers post war to 1990s.

BAE systems are patent holders for a lot of AVRO stuff
 
I know next to nothing about aeroplanes, but have always wondered, if Spitfire and Hurricanes make grown men go all funny and weak, why has not some enterprising person built replicas? Surely if, during the war they were thrown together, cheaply and quickly, in hastily adapted and converted factories, they could be built today. There are plenty of rich people who love boy's toys, look at sales of supercars, and of yachts, speedboats etc. Why not these almost universally loved aircraft?

http://www.flugwerk.de/html/index.php - currently building replica FW190s, Me262s and P-51s. Proper full size replicas with similar performance to the originals...

 

PpPete

Legendary Member
Location
Chandler's Ford
its likely the Hawker patents will be held by Raytheon following the merge and demerge of variuos aircraft engineers post war to 1990s.

BAE systems are patent holders for a lot of AVRO stuff

I think Raytheon (now Hawker Beechcraft) only bought the bits relating to the HS125 business jets. BAE Systems are the better bet.

Some spares are still commercially available... for example "the rubber ball on a string" that is essentially the handle to pull the cockpit canopy back can still be purchased from Martin-Baker, more famous now for ejector seats.
 
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gbb

Squire
Location
Peterborough
Talking to my dad the other day, he joined the RAF in 1949. Key points he remembered about the Hurricane vs Spitfires..
He's worked a bit on Spitfires, but only once on a Hurricane. Spitfires were often the station commanders 'personal' transport, held and mainained for almost personal use after their operational roles ended.

Despite his age (he's 82) he could remember the wingspans in a heartbeat..36ft for the Spit, 40ft for the Hurricane. The Hurricane was a heavy duty workhorse, the Spit was seen as 'dainty', noticeably smaller than the hurricane,
Early hurricanes were part fabric covered, easy as hell to work on, while the Spitfire was stressed skin making maintenance much harder. Often work had to be done through hand sized access holes and was done blind, by feel only.
He agreed with something i said earlier...the hurricane was the end product of older technology, descended ultimately from the Hawker biplanes of the 30s. The spitfire was different, it was far more complex, the new technology allowed it to be updated far more than the hurricane.

I said his time in the RAF must have seen huge leaps in technology, when you consider in less than 20 years they'd gone from Spitfires to EE Lightnings, from Lancasters to Vulcan bombers...so far removed from each other in technology, complexity, ability and speed.....he said everything went at a relentless pace, he loved every minute of it.
 

Night Train

Maker of Things
I know next to nothing about aeroplanes, but have always wondered, if Spitfire and Hurricanes make grown men go all funny and weak, why has not some enterprising person built replicas? Surely if, during the war they were thrown together, cheaply and quickly, in hastily adapted and converted factories, they could be built today. There are plenty of rich people who love boy's toys, look at sales of supercars, and of yachts, speedboats etc. Why not these almost universally loved aircraft?
You mean one of these?
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/...pack-fighter-Build-Spitfire-mere-130-000.html
 
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