Steakflation

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midlandsgrimpeur

Senior Member
They don't hang the meat anymore, it's supposed to mature 21 to 28 Days, but the supermarkets have brainwashed the public that beef should be bright red, so it is slaughtered, butchered & packed straightaway, the local butchers joints are far superior to anything from a supermarket

It's similar with most animals, far too much is slaughtered too early (often artificially boosted to speed up growth) and then not hung or prepped for the proper amount of time in order to get it on shelves as quickly as possible. My brother eats little but beef, but pretty much the bright red stuff. I got him a proper 35 day aged steak once, he thought it had gone off 😂
 

Norry1

Legendary Member
Location
Warwick
Tesco Turkey Drumstick. £3.70 for 1kg. Cook in airfryer for 75 mins at 170C - lovely. We call it Turkeylamb.
 

wafter

I like steel bikes and I cannot lie..
Location
Oxford
I got him a proper 35 day aged steak once, he thought it had gone off 😂
Well, technically is has - doesn't ageing tenderise the meat by allowing bacteria to do some of the digestive work for you?

Since said bacteria evolves histamine (something I evidently have a big problem metabolising) I have to steer clear of the aged stuff, but I do agree with your general sentiment re. quality and processing.

Sad state of affairs today - go out of your way / spend more to source good quality food and some will label you a snob, whereas in reality you're often just avoiding the ultra-processed crap that'll put you in an early grave..
 

midlandsgrimpeur

Senior Member
That’s interesting, what do you know?
Consider I was involved in the meat trade for over 40 years I’m very interested in your answer.

Haven't chickens for example been genetically altered through breeding to grow bigger and faster so they are ready for slaughter at 8 weeks? Maybe a question of semantics but I would class that as an artificial enhancement.
 

midlandsgrimpeur

Senior Member
Well, technically is has - doesn't ageing tenderise the meat by allowing bacteria to do some of the digestive work for you?

Since said bacteria evolves histamine (something I evidently have a big problem metabolising) I have to steer clear of the aged stuff, but I do agree with your general sentiment re. quality and processing.

Sad state of affairs today - go out of your way / spend more to source good quality food and some will label you a snob, whereas in reality you're often just avoiding the ultra-processed crap that'll put you in an early grave..

As far as I am aware, dry ageing draws out moisture and breaks down enzymes altering flavour and tenderising the meat. Yeast and mould will be present (usually on the outside which is cut away), but as far as I am aware no increase in bacterial growth. Wet ageing is different though, this can produce bacterial growth. I know of steak places that serve steak aged up to 80 odd days, never tried it but have heard the taste is an acquired one!
 

wiggydiggy

Legendary Member
I only buy meat on reduced stickers now. As I have an outside freezer if I see some marked up I tend to buy a lot. Mostly pork and chicken it's rare I buy beef.

On the subject of which I've given up completely on minced meat, the way they vacuum pack it now is awful. Just a big brick of mince that's no good for anything.
 

OldShep

Veteran
Haven't chickens for example been genetically altered through breeding to grow bigger and faster so they are ready for slaughter at 8 weeks? Maybe a question of semantics but I would class that as an artificial enhancement.

If selective breeding is the same as genetically altered then you’ll be right.
Returning to steak a lot of cattle was three years ago old at slaughter back in my childhood 50s/60s. Due to BSE and the cost of wintering cattle without selective breeding that lump of meat on the plate would be double the current price.
I don’t buy lamb but be grateful you don’t have to eat as much mutton that was on my plate as child. Selective breeding has produced lamb that finishes while still a lamb. 😀
 
Haven't chickens for example been genetically altered through breeding to grow bigger and faster so they are ready for slaughter at 8 weeks? Maybe a question of semantics but I would class that as an artificial enhancement.

That'd be down to selective breeding for birds that pack on the weight more quickly. That, and raising the birds in sheds. Your average supermarket chicken or duck is typically somewhere around 8 weeks old (I know that as there's a duck farm nearby, and it's easy enough to keep track of when they clear the sheds). Likewise a cheap turkey is about 3 months old.

This is exactly why I prefer to buy free range poultry if I can. The birds are more expensive because they are slower growing and at least twice the age of the above (ergo longer time on the farm), have room to roam (much smaller density) and therefore are less stressed. But you really do notice the difference in flavour and texture.

That said, farmers have always looked to maximise the size and productivity of their livestock by breeding for specific traits. You only need to look at the agricultural / livestock paintings of the 18th and 19th century to see that this is nothing new. But this has vastly accelerated since the second world war - where intensive farming methods were employed to help ramp up food production for a very hungry nation. The UK was broke post-war, and the country was committed to helping to feed a devastated Europe as well as themselves.
 
Well, we didn't manage it all, so decided as I was starting to get full, to stop and pop the fridge for tonight in a container. We ate about half, so will just add some more veg to the meal tonight. Loads of baked leek and cheese though ! Two excellent pieces and it was silly to keep eating.

That's exactly it - no point shovelling it down the hatch and not enjoying it!

A fairly standard 6oz steak does the two of us for a main meal and a nice lunchtime sandwich. And there's a bit for the cat too. :blush:
 
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