Stolen White Brompton?

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CharlieB

Junior Walker and the Allstars
Not sure if this story should be in the Stolen Bikes forum, as the posts there seem to be from people who've had theirs stolen, but here goes.
Crowded train pulls into Finchley Road train station about 6 last (Thursday) night. I get on with folded Brommie, on my way home. I'm followed on to the train by a guy with grubby white Brompton, not folded. So I'm standing there minding my own business, when after about 3 minutes the guy says to me; 'how much did that cost you, then? I told him roughly how much, slightly surprised at the question..
Guy: 'Where did you get it?'
Me: 'From a shop in Victoria'
Guy: 'Not on-line, then?'
Me: 'No, from a shop'
Guy: 'How many gears have you got' (this is a more normal Brompton owner to Brompton owner enquiry)
Me: 'Six'
Guy: 'I bet that really shifts, then"
Me 'It's pretty quick.' (then, glancing down at his) 'You're OK with three gears, then?'
Guy: 'How do you know that?'
Me: 'Because I can see that'
That's pretty much how the conversation ran, if not verbatim, but by now, alarm bells were ringing.
I don't need to tell people on CC that Brommie owners are a pretty obsessive bunch, who know every detail of how they're set up, the options available, and what they cost. I'm almost certain that they would always fold them on crowded public transport, notwithstanding the fact that at six in the eveing on London Underground, you're not allowed an unfolded bike.
I mentally took a note of his appearance, dress, and when the guy got off at Wembley Park, I called the police, as I felt this could be stolen.
Does anyone else agree with my logic?
Did I do the right thing?
Did I do enough?
 

BSRU

A Human Being
Location
Swindon
Not sure if this story should be in the Stolen Bikes forum, as the posts there seem to be from people who've had theirs stolen, but here goes.
Crowded train pulls into Finchley Road train station about 6 last (Thursday) night. I get on with folded Brommie, on my way home. I'm followed on to the train by a guy with grubby white Brompton, not folded. So I'm standing there minding my own business, when after about 3 minutes the guy says to me; 'how much did that cost you, then? I told him roughly how much, slightly surprised at the question..
Guy: 'Where did you get it?'
Me: 'From a shop in Victoria'
Guy: 'Not on-line, then?'
Me: 'No, from a shop'
Guy: 'How many gears have you got' (this is a more normal Brompton owner to Brompton owner enquiry)
Me: 'Six'
Guy: 'I bet that really shifts, then"
Me 'It's pretty quick.' (then, glancing down at his) 'You're OK with three gears, then?'
Guy: 'How do you know that?'
Me: 'Because I can see that'
That's pretty much how the conversation ran, if not verbatim, but by now, alarm bells were ringing.
I don't need to tell people on CC that Brommie owners are a pretty obsessive bunch, who know every detail of how they're set up, the options available, and what they cost. I'm almost certain that they would always fold them on crowded public transport, notwithstanding the fact that at six in the eveing on London Underground, you're not allowed an unfolded bike.
I mentally took a note of his appearance, dress, and when the guy got off at Wembley Park, I called the police, as I felt this could be stolen.
Does anyone else agree with my logic?
Did I do the right thing?
Did I do enough?
He could just be an idiot, plenty around.
 

Cyclopathic

Veteran
Location
Leicester.
It's good that you are vigilant but I think that in this case it may have been an over reaction. Your evidence is all circumstantial and I can't imagine that the police would be able to do anything with your report. He could as mentioned by someone else, be an idiot. I don't know if statistically speaking one is more likely to encounter an idiot with a Brompton or a thief. Good to be alert though and if my bike was nicked I'm sure I'd appreciate someone looking out for things.
 
He could just be an idiot, plenty around.

Sorry but not knowing your gears does not make you an idiot.

It can just be that some people are not interetsted in their bike's mechanics, just that it's a mode of transport that is useful for them.

There's lots of things I use in my life that I have no interest in how they work, and I'm sure that infuriates the dedicated fans of these objects on forums but it does not make me an idiot.

It's even more ridiculous that the police were contacted becuase of this.
 

BSRU

A Human Being
Location
Swindon
Sorry but not knowing your gears does not make you an idiot.

It can just be that some people are not interetsted in their bike's mechanics, just that it's a mode of transport that is useful for them.

There's lots of things I use in my life that I have no interest in how they work, and I'm sure that infuriates the dedicated fans of these objects on forums but it does not make me an idiot.

It's even more ridiculous that the police were contacted becuase of this.
More targeted at having a folder and not folding it on a busy train.
 
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CharlieB

CharlieB

Junior Walker and the Allstars
Yes, I know and I knew at the time the evidence is entirely circumstantial. It was just a gut feeling.
I should have added in the OP that here were two Bromptons, albeit in different colours, less than a metre apart on a standing room only train, and yet I got the distinct impression at the time that the guy hadn't connected at all that this was the same bike in two states, viz folded and unfolded.
But thank you for the opinions.
 

StuartG

slower but no further
Location
SE London
Charllie - I was with you that his questions were not quite right. I would have done as you did. I would have sneaked a photo with my phone if I could.

On reflection though - if he was a thief he would have been quite an idiot exposing his ignorance to another Brommie owner and keeping a low profile with hot property. Or perhaps I have too high expectations of our criminal classes ... they ain't wot they used to be ...
 

Brains

Legendary Member
Location
Greenwich
A reasonable thing to do.
Even the Police pull over cyclists where something is not quite right

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...list-pulled-officers-wasnt-wearing-Lycra.html
 
Definitely stolen. If not by him, by the scum he bought it off down the youth club. Id have offered to buy it off him for a ridiculous sum of money to get his address out of him and then got the polis involved.
 

GrumpyGregry

Here for rides.
A "Fag Ash lil" type, up stokey, once a near neighbour of the number one son, rides a nice ti brompton to and from her cleaning job everyday, grandson got it for her up the (Brick Lane) market for a couple of ponies.

True story.

I think the OP's instincts and actions were sound.
 

Cyclopathic

Veteran
Location
Leicester.
A "Fag Ash lil" type, up stokey, once a near neighbour of the number one son, rides a nice ti brompton to and from her cleaning job everyday, grandson got it for her up the (Brick Lane) market for a couple of ponies.

True story.

I think the OP's instincts and actions were sound.

That sounds fair enough. I mean you can't easily fold a pony and get it on the train so fair swap.
 

Crankarm

Guru
Location
Nr Cambridge
Something was a little fishy.

Fancy not knowing how many gears your Brompton had given there are only 3 options, single, 3 and 6 speeds. Fancy not folding it on a busy train. You could have made a citizen's arrest.
 
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