Stupid cycling infrastructure

[ExBrit]

While planning my next bike trip, I wondered why rwgps didn't use the Salem Parkway bike path through Chemawa, WA.

When I went into satellite view I could see why.

To continue on the bike path you're expected to cross an off-ramp, a busy 6-lane road, and an on-ramp. I expect the city says "Hey we built this bike path but no-one uses it so we're not going to build anymore". This kind of stuff makes me mad.

 

[Daninplymouth]

One of my local faves, main road with a cycle path all along. Get to the new housing estate and only side road and they decided to end the cycle lane force you onto the pavement to cross the road then the pavement ends the other side so your pushed back onto the cycle lane back on the road.
Surely they'd be better with a narrower pavement and continuing a separate cycle lane rather than a shared path for 100mtrs

 

[All uphill]

This could be a long and depressing thread.

I used to be part of a local group campaigning for walking and cycling to be properly included in local infrastructure. It became clear to me that the Highways people thought their job was to make life easy for motorists. Anything else was an inconvenience.

It was not good for my health so I stopped and got out on the bike more.

 

[Mike_P]

Can honestly say I never seen a cyclist use this shared pavement, to make it even worse at the far end (a probably too extensive term for its length) their is a Cyclists Dismount sign

There use to be this to fool new cyclists to it on Otley Road (the 2019 UCI circuit whent in the opposing direction) - look a cycle lane on the up grade road only for it to end just before the bus shelter with cyclists then expected to give way to road traffic. Was removed rather than being extended.

 

[Alex321]

While planning my next bike trip, I wondered why rwgps didn't use the Salem Parkway bike path through Chemawa, WA.

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When I went into satellite view I could see why.
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To continue on the bike path you're expected to cross an off-ramp, a busy 6-lane road, and an on-ramp. I expect the city says "Hey we built this bike path but no-one uses it so we're not going to build anymore". This kind of stuff makes me mad.

There are traffic lights though, with pedestrian/cycle buttons.

 

[ExBrit]

There are traffic lights though, with pedestrian/cycle buttons.

It will take five minutes to get through this intersection minimum. Just to go 60 feet. If there was a pedestrian crossing straight across, that would be fine.

 

[Bollo]

Warrington Cycle Campaign used to be the go-to for crap cycle infrastructure but it looks like the site is no longer being maintained. I've got one in there.

http://wcc.crankfoot.xyz/facility-of-the-month/index.htm

If you were unaware, then make a brew and enjoy.

 

[mjr]

Warrington Cycle Campaign used to be the go-to for crap cycle infrastructure but it looks like the site is no longer being maintained.

Probably because it took up a chunk of time and achieved little beyond depressing campaigners and annoying the people we need to change.

Some examples are things being built piecemeal by developers and then councils never funding the things they should connect to. Some, especially Cycleways Resembling A Pavement are just cheapskate councils. Both those are finally starting to be punished by Active Travel England's scoring of councils that affect their budgets. Things can be fixed but it ain't quick and there's a lot to fix.

 

[youngoldbloke]

A favourite example of cycle lanes painted where not needed only to end where they are needed - through the pinch-points. A wide, relatively quiet road. Valley Road

 

[Alex321]

A favourite example of cycle lanes painted where not needed only to end where they are needed - through the pinch-points. A wide, relatively quiet road. Valley Road

They wouldn't fit where they are "needed" though.

If the cycle lane continued at the same width, cars could not fit in what would be left of the road by the island. They HAVE to end the lane there unless they are going to physically modify the road.

 

[youngoldbloke]

They wouldn't fit where they are "needed" though.

If the cycle lane continued at the same width, cars could not fit in what would be left of the road by the island. They HAVE to end the lane there unless they are going to physically modify the road.

Agreed - I always took primary at those points, but why bother to waste paint on the rest of the road. They don' t HAVE to end there anyway as they are advisory markings.

 

[Alex321]

Agreed - I always took primary at those points, but why bother to waste paint on the rest of the road. They don' t HAVE to end there anyway as they are advisory markings.

Good point - I'd missed the fact they are dashed lines rather than the solid ones which are mandatory for motor vehicles not entering.

 

[Drago]

A favourite example of cycle lanes painted where not needed only to end where they are needed - through the pinch-points. A wide, relatively quiet road. Valley Road

Those bottlenecks have all been removed in nearby Milton Keynes as the figures over the years had shown that they simply turned a minor speeding problem into a fairly serious head-on collision dead people problem.

 

[the snail]

They wouldn't fit where they are "needed" though.

If the cycle lane continued at the same width, cars could not fit in what would be left of the road by the island. They HAVE to end the lane there unless they are going to physically modify the road.

They should continue the cycle lane and reduce the main traffic lane to a single lane, preferably with a raised footway. Probably hould be 20mph limit by a school too.

 

[Sallar55]

The planner's should be sent to the Eu , then they might learn something . Today ,5kms through the city without stopping. And a bonus another cycle way out into the countryside.