Such a thoughtful and caring parent...

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Driving out of a retail park here up proper North (Dalton Park), a big black Nissan 4x4 was coming into the retail park, doing about 20 with a big ugly thug driving and the sunroof open ( slid back).
As I was driving a normalish car, you may be wondering how I knew his sunroof was slid back?

Well, his little daughter who seemed around 5-years old was stood up with her top half out of the sunroof with her hair flowing in the wind!!!

People never seem to amaze me with their ignorance, stupidity and sheer lack of care for the safety of others and especially their children.

He looked the type that if here had been a reason for him to brake hard injuring his daughter (assumption there), he would put the blame on whoever he thought caused the accident and never himself fir allowing her to do it in the first place.
 
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Brake hard - daughter gets slammed against the car - broken neck and a brain injury.
 

Night Train

Maker of Things
I used to get passed, each day going to work, by a car doing about 90mph on the A56. It was driven by a woman in a suit (I think) with a baby on board flag in the rear window and a toddler clambering about loose on the rear parcel shelf!
 

Globalti

Legendary Member
So did we; we used to lie in the back of my Mum's Mini van and mess around in the back of the parents' Dormobile, no seat belts.

But there was a lot less traffic in those days and everything moved a lot more slowly.
 

Norm

Guest
We used to do it often when we were kids as did many others .... we also used to be driven round in vans with the sliding doors open and no safety belts ... I don't recall lots of maimed kids ....
And sitting in the back of Land Rovers (which had loaded shotguns in them too!) and on the top of 15' hay trailers and three up in tractors with no roll-over hoops and...
 

Norm

Guest
Another assumption but that girl probably felt more alive in those few minutes than many kids feel until they get their motorbike licence.

Yeah, something bad could come from it, but that can be said of everything that occurs from the moment we take our first breath to the moment we take our last.

I'm guessing those who worry about sudden braking wouldn't have too many worries about the millions of people who travel standing on a tube train or on Network Rail without seatbelts.
 

vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
Safety legislation and the population's growing risk aversion makes such acts appear to be horrendous and 'the glass is half empty' folk are duly horrified by acts that were commonplace in the not too distant past.

I subscribe to 'risk aversion by proxy' i.e. participate in acts that horrify friends and colleagues and render them incoherent with fear, rage or threats of litigation.

Sometimes the hassle of talking folk back down from their pedestals of morality/outrage isn't worth the fun gained from momentary perceived acts of numptiness.
 
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TonyEnjoyD

TonyEnjoyD

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Safety legislation and the population's growing risk aversion makes such acts appear to be horrendous and 'the glass is half empty' folk are duly horrified by acts that were commonplace in the not too distant past.

I subscribe to 'risk aversion by proxy' i.e. participate in acts that horrify friends and colleagues and render them incoherent with fear, rage or threats of litigation.

Sometimes the hassle of talking folk back down from their pedestals of morality/outrage isn't worth the fun gained from momentary perceived acts of numptiness.

Boy was that deep!
 

Arch

Married to Night Train
Location
Salford, UK
While I agree that many kids are too wrapped up in cotton wool, the context matters. Driving around gently (because even 10mph is going to feel like fun in that situation) with a kid sticking out of the roof on a piece of quiet private land is one thing, but driving out of a retail park, no matter how careful the driver is, he can't account for the other idiots who might cause him to stand on his brakes....

And I'm afraid the description of driver and vehicle doesn't inspire all that much confidence in him in the first place.
 

marzjennings

Legendary Member
Driving out of a retail park here up proper North (Dalton Park), a big black Nissan 4x4 was coming into the retail park, doing about 20 with a big ugly thug driving and the sunroof open ( slid back).
As I was driving a normalish car, you may be wondering how I knew his sunroof was slid back?

Well, his little daughter who seemed around 5-years old was stood up with her top half out of the sunroof with her hair flowing in the wind!!!

People never seem to amaze me with their ignorance, stupidity and sheer lack of care for the safety of others and especially their children.

He looked the type that if here had been a reason for him to brake hard injuring his daughter (assumption there), he would put the blame on whoever he thought caused the accident and never himself fir allowing her to do it in the first place.
Wow, congratulations on a fantastic stereotypical cliched assassination of someone you obviously don't know, or would even take the time to know.

So basically a big guy was driving a car you don't approve of while a child of about 5, who may have been the driver's daughter was having fun by sticking her head out of the sunroof. End of the world stuff there, ooooh.

How the heck did we ever make it through our childhood, no seatbelts, child seats, air bags, drink driving limits for dad or speed limits.
 
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TonyEnjoyD

TonyEnjoyD

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Marzjennings, picture yourself standing in a coroners court, defending to the coroner that the parent standing by you is kind, caring and thoughtful and was simply showing his daughter how much fun you could have by just sticking her head out of the car roof.

I have three young children and would NEVER knowingly put them at risk by my actions or by inaction.
 
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