Swindon Rammer Final Update

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punkedmonkey

Active Member
Having thought about this a bit more - I think you should definitely pursue this, otherwise a bad attitude will just proliferate amongst your police force. No road user should be subject to the behaviour seen in your video - whether a motorist or cyclist or pedestrian.

At it's very least it is intimidating... and the attitude shown by the officer maybe indicative of more underlying issues relating to cyclists.
 

mr_cellophane

Legendary Member
Location
Essex
What about the issue of the badges on his van he wasn't entitled to use.
 
If they can't issue an on the spot fine then most of them aren't interested. Just another good reason to slap an out of order notice on this godforsaken country.
 

Hip Priest

Veteran
[QUOTE 1535501"]Of course the driver claimed you called them a self-gratification artist? You say you did not so you don't know who to believe. And it was hardly a ram was it? Looks like the driver has hit the brakes to late rather then intentionally ram you.
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Only the driver knows whether he hit the bike deliberately, but hit the bike he did.

I feel the OP has been shafted somewhat.
 

400bhp

Guru
[QUOTE 1535501"]
Hmm, dunno, just seen the vid again. To me it's six to one and half a dozen.

You did not have to be out that far imo. If you knew the van was there, a quick check and move across to the left to let the van through?

Also don't ubderstand the position on the approach to the traffic light? When you was out wide on the o/s. Was you trying to talk to the driver then?

Of course the driver claimed you called them a self-gratification artist? You say you did not so you don't know who to believe. And it was hardly a ram was it? Looks like the driver has hit the brakes to late rather then intentionally ram you.
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I'm a little bit with Lee here. It is all a bit handbags at dawn.

I suspect BRSU has a less than positive reputation across that part of the world. :wacko:
 

gaz

Cycle Camera TV
Location
South Croydon
The comment regarding traffic cop is totally dependent on how the case was reported.
If it was reported as an assault (don't see why it would be) then it doesn't matter what kind of officer deals with the case BUT they shouldn't be commenting on the riding style unless they are a traffic officer.

If it was reported as a traffic incident then a traffic officer should be dealing with it. And i would be surprised if this was a response from a traffic officer.

Either way you need to highlight with the police that the response you got is an issue. The polices response that you where lucky he didn't do worse and that you are after trouble is just total crap!

There is a downside with cameras, they don't show everything, i can easily stick a middle finger up at any driver on the road without the cameras ever picking it up or looking like I did (head movements etc..) and any such claim from a driver is 6 for one half a dozen of another.
Even if you did swear at the driver, that doesn't excuse his actions.
 
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OP
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BSRU

A Human Being
Location
Swindon
[QUOTE 1535501"]
Hmm, dunno, just seen the vid again. To me it's six to one and half a dozen.

You did not have to be out that far imo. If you knew the van was there, a quick check and move across to the left to let the van through?

Also don't ubderstand the position on the approach to the traffic light? When you was out wide on the o/s. Was you trying to talk to the driver then?

Of course the driver claimed you called them a self-gratification artist? You say you did not so you don't know who to believe. And it was hardly a ram was it? Looks like the driver has hit the brakes to late rather then intentionally ram you.
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As I stated in my original thread, it was a minor incident with minimal damage.
My position at the lights was indeed to allow me to ask the driver why he had passed so close but as the lights changed I gave up on that idea.
My main issue was that it was deliberate, I had my left foot down and had turned around to watch him drive at me, despite having plenty of time to stop safely. Not only was this my opinion it was also the opinion of the witness which the police officer never bothered talk to. With the rear video it is possible to hear when I unclipped my left foot and it again shows there is plenty of time for him to stop safely.

I had moved into primary as I was approaching a car parked on the right, causing a pinch point, and I could see the mini-bus approaching.
If the mini-bus driver had eased off very slightly and arrived at the parked car half a second later I would have been back in secondary position.
If the mini-bus had not been speeding, imo, the original bad pass would not have occurred.
If the mini-bus driver had not been using a bus gate illegally as a short cut the interaction would have occurred.
 

Cordulegaster

Active Member
Location
Maidenhead
It makes me despair. Most of my police experiences have been equally poor. However you have to decide whether this is worth following up. It isn't right but it may take a lot of energy and worry to try to get justice and you may not be successful.

Move on and enjoy your cycling.
 

davefb

Guru
wow.

incredible they can quote the allegation of you making a gesture, what proof is there of this? utterly none whatsoever.


driving at someone such that they fail to break after an alleged swearing is okay ?? this must be dodgy handshakes at dawn ??
 
This fits with my recent experience with the police. I have taken it further and have an ongoing complaint. However it does take a lot of energy to pursue. It can become a battle. If you do decide to take this further, good luck. If you need any advice or just someone else to confide in who knows where you are coming from, then feel free to contact me.

I do despair sometimes.....
 

benb

Evidence based cyclist
Location
Epsom
IPCC, media, blogs.

There was nothing wrong with your road position.

Even if you did gesticulate, or the driver believes you did, it doesn't justify him driving into you (deliberately IMO).
 
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