Tate and Lyle, a small quiz

[Arch]

While eating pancakes this evening, I remarked on the design on the squeezy bottle of Golden Syrup, and was met with rank disbelief when I explained the picture. (Research by one member of the party has since proved me right).

So, for one point, what is the picture on a tin of Tate and Lyle Golden Syrup, and for another, what is the motto (and therefore how do they relate to each other)? Without looking at the tin or googling, how many of you can answer?

 

[vernon]

Out of strength comes (forth?)sweetness - a bees' hive in the carcase of a Lion?

A Lion with bees swarming around it.

it was a biblical riddle don't know whereabouts - anything to do with Samson?

Now I'll look up the answers.

 

[Apeman]

The picture is of a lion and the motto is "From sweetness comes strength" That will be two points please!

 

[Night Train]

A lion and bees.
'From strength come forth sweetness.'? Something biblical I think - Samson?

 

[Arch]

Out of strength comes (forth?)sweetness - a bees' hive in the carcase of a Lion?

A Lion with bees swarming around it.

it was a biblical riddle don't know whereabouts - anything to do with Samson?

Now I'll look up the answers.

Well done everyone!

Everyone thought it was a swarm of flies - that would be a pretty radical design to put on a food product...

A bit random of course, since Golden Syrup has nothing to do with honey.

Oh my, I've just thought, there's a design for Foska to get hold of!

 

[Arch]

The picture is of a lion and the motto is "From sweetness comes strength" That will be two points please!

Not quite, it's the other way about, you can have a point for the lion.

 

[Keith Oates]

I've never seen a squeezy bottle of Golden Syrup, how long have they been around!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Maz]

Wow. In all this time, I'd never had a close look at the logo on the Golden Syrup tin. I knew there was a lion on it, but never even noticed the bees before!

Edit: I just cheated and had a close look at the tin. So is that a dead lion with bees living in it? Slightly bizarre...

 

[Over The Hill]

While eating pancakes this evening, I remarked on the design on the squeezy bottle of Golden Syrup, and was met with rank disbelief when I explained the picture. (Research by one member of the party has since proved me right).

So, for one point, what is the picture on a tin of Tate and Lyle Golden Syrup, and for another, what is the motto (and therefore how do they relate to each other)? Without looking at the tin or googling, how many of you can answer?

Tut tut Arch!
It always has been Lyle's Golden Syrup (or Black Treacle) Although the company is Tate and Lyle the brand is Lyle's.

 

[Tim Bennet.]

When I worked in Africa, I had a tin of golden syrup sent out as a treat.
When my local co-workers saw it they asked "why is there a dead lion on the tin?"
Despite my protestations that it was a sleeping lion with bees, they insisted it was a dead one with flies.

Years later, I was in the City Art Gallery in Manchester, and there is the original Victorian painting.
The lads in Zimbabwe were right - it was dead when it was painted but propped up in what a Victorian (who had never seen one) thought would be how a lion slept.




"The Desert1849
Sir Edwin Landseer 1802-1873
Oil on canvas

According to one contemporary account, Landseer used a dead lion from London Zoo as a model for this mysterious painting.
Some ten years later he sculpted four large lions, again using a dead beast from the Zoo, to be cast in bronze for Trafalgar Square.

Landseer enjoyed drawing animals from childhood and later studied dissection and anatomy.
He was a favourite of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert, who bought and commissioned many works.
His accurately observed animal subjects, often invested with human characteristics, also made his work popular with the middle class.

This painting was a donation from Sir William Agnew, a son of the Manchester art dealer Thomas Agnew, whose influential firm was founded in 1817.
It seems to have been the basis for the lion design which first appeared on Lyle's syrup tins in 1885 and is still used today. "

The 'bees' were obviously added when it became Lyle's tin decoration in a typical Victorian, slightly confused, bit of allegorical nonsense.

 

[jethro10]

I heard the answer is actually written subliminally in a post modern picture hanging in their Tate and Lyle gallery in London.

not had a look, can anyone confirm?

Jeff

 

[HelenD123]

I still think it looks like a swarm of flies. Not the most appetising accompaniment to pancakes!

 

[Proto]

As an aside, at one point in my life I was an acquaintance of scions of both the Tate family and the Lyle family, but they didn't know each other. Weird, eh?

 

[PpPete]

Tut tut Arch!
It always has been Lyle's Golden Syrup (or Black Treacle) Although the company is Tate and Lyle the brand is Lyle's.

Quite so....

and I always thought they were flies too

 

[threebikesmcginty]

Golden Syrup is for porridge, pancakes should have sugar and lemon on them. Anything else is against the law.