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classic33

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I just gave up on the idea as couldn't be erchied with it all.
Never know what you could find though, that is the attraction.
Al Mrs M relatives have retired from farming sadly....
Decent Xiegu gear on the market now,
I might get the 20w watt..
Sounds as though you gave up on the metal detecting for similar reasons I gave up on radio.
Always that, "what might be here" thought. Something priceless or just where someone dumped their bottle caps.
Can't you sneak back in saying you left something behind?
Will 20w be enough for future needs?
 

Bobby Mhor

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A wee change. You trust these AI script generators?

Started with a light mist in the early hours here.
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Sounds as though you gave up on the metal detecting for similar reasons I gave up on radio.
Always that, "what might be here" thought. Something priceless or just where someone dumped their bottle caps.
Can't you sneak back in saying you left something behind?
Will 20w be enough for future needs?

You can do lots of damage with 20 watts...
I'll be back later on that....

Nah, open farmland would be too risky..
the old problem of ones doing it and not respecting the land..

It's officially a Wet day today
 

classic33

Leg End Member
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You can do lots of damage with 20 watts...
I'll be back later on that....

Nah, open farmland would be too risky..
the old problem of ones doing it and not respecting the land..

It's officially a Wet day today
Mebbe someone does but they're not saying. Just in case...

Wouldn't surprise me.
I'll await you coming back.
From wherever it is you're going...

True, and it's those that have done it and never respected the law that have done the damage locally. Finds made and not declared, or even mentioned it to the people whose land they were on. Found out when they tried selling them on.

Snap!
Started with it chucking it down, wonder if it'll finish the same way
 

Bobby Mhor

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Owdo
Not too bad 'ere...
You introduced her to McD's yet?
Too wee....
Mebbe someone does but they're not saying. Just in case...

Wouldn't surprise me.
I'll await you coming back.
From wherever it is you're going...

True, and it's those that have done it and never respected the law that have done the damage locally. Finds made and not declared, or even mentioned it to the people whose land they were on. Found out when they tried selling them on.

Snap!
Started with it chucking it down, wonder if it'll finish the same way
WSPR 27032024.jpg

This was using 2 watts....from 12.02 - 12.08, 3 x TX periods.
Who received me
(saves trying to fit the database results here, so below is the map)

WSPR map.jpg

call edited, of course
still running but now every 4th tx period,
 

Bobby Mhor

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You don't have to buy her anything.

Impressive...
Would upping your output increase the range by a similar increase?

Possibly but propagation shifts about in mysterious ways, more likely increase in signal strength..
example
(all in theory)
signal strength.jpg

First call, if I upped the power to say 50 watts, it could improve to -4db..
2nd, the same it could get to -1 db I only need 6 watts..
3rd, 50 watts takes it to -11db..
6 watts would take it to -20db
4th, 50 would take it to -10 and 6 to -19 db..
Unfortunately there could be violent swings of propagation, one min good, next minute weak....

Around 11.30 to 12.00 earlier I got spotted by roughly 16 Japanese stations , the image shows how localised it can be and it doesn't mean the area between me and them would all be picking me up, the old eastern block at west on the Black sea was..

localised.jpg
 

classic33

Leg End Member
Possibly but propagation shifts about in mysterious ways, more likely increase in signal strength..
example
(all in theory)
View attachment 725675
First call, if I upped the power to say 50 watts, it could improve to -4db..
2nd, the same it could get to -1 db I only need 6 watts..
3rd, 50 watts takes it to -11db..
6 watts would take it to -20db
4th, 50 would take it to -10 and 6 to -19 db..
Unfortunately there could be violent swings of propagation, one min good, next minute weak....

Around 11.30 to 12.00 earlier I got spotted by roughly 16 Japanese stations , the image shows how localised it can be and it doesn't mean the area between me and them would all be picking me up, the old eastern block at west on the Black sea was..

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Simple sounding solution isn't as simple as it seems. With a load of variables outside your control. The ionsphere being well beyond your control.
What was it of yours that were picked up? Callsign only or another repeater signal.

Toodles trip go as planned?


Health Tip.
Recent research has backed up previous research, and proven that not only is apple juice good for the memory, but it may also reverse any damage already done.
 

Bobby Mhor

Wasn't born to follow
Location
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Simple sounding solution isn't as simple as it seems. With a load of variables outside your control. The ionsphere being well beyond your control.
What was it of yours that were picked up? Callsign only or another repeater signal.

Toodles trip go as planned?


Health Tip.
Recent research has backed up previous research, and proven that not only is apple juice good for the memory, but it may also reverse any damage already done.

Nah, I just blanked my call and the last letter of the example shown.
Interesting mode....
I'll post a FT8 equivalent,
I'll go up to 20 watts on 17m (18mhz)
the thing is no day is the same..
there are a couple of things like this that interest me...
HERE
but I've too many side projects going at the moment...
What's apple juice for:cuppa:
 

classic33

Leg End Member
Nah, I just blanked my call and the last letter of the example shown.
Interesting mode....
I'll post a FT8 equivalent,
I'll go up to 20 watts on 17m (18mhz)
the thing is no day is the same..
there are a couple of things like this that interest me...
HERE
but I've too many side projects going at the moment...
What's apple juice for:cuppa:
What I meant was, what was it that those in Japan heard, when they picked you up.
Should we be worried about you upping the power, again?
Looks good, expensive?
Slow down a bit...

What's apple juice for!
Supping, what else.
 

Bobby Mhor

Wasn't born to follow
Location
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Owdo
No, it's not you. Time really does speed up as you get older.
You can do some things that might slow it down again, for you.
I'll try...

What I meant was, what was it that those in Japan heard, when they picked you up.
Should we be worried about you upping the power, again?
Looks good, expensive?
Slow down a bit...

What's apple juice for!
Supping, what else.

Go HERE it explains it easier than I can (FT8)
WSPR2 is different but still the same principle, a TX lasts 110.6 sec and send my calls, maidenhead locator power etc, repeated of course.
As it is 108 sec long, it can reach the other station better than the short 12.6 sec FT8, peaks and troughs of propagation.
a FT8 exchange can last 6 exchanges, can be cut to 5...
WSPR is just a sending of rx'ed signal to a central database via the program
You also have FT4 which is 4.48 secs long so is faster again but slightly less sensitive.
WSPR2 can decode down to -34db
FT8 can get to -26db
FT4 struggles at -20db although I once had a -22db report..

I might try one later
 
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