Teachers' Pay Rise

[Rhythm Thief]

Just found this on the Daily Mash. Made me laugh.

 

[vernon]

Just found this on the Daily Mash. Made me laugh.

The NUT's original claim made me laugh and I'm a teacher

The NUT have never had a firm grip on reality.

 

[Mr Pig]

If you look at the time they actually spend working then teachers already get vastly over paid! Totally agree with the Mash perspective, my son's high school is a joke. Pay them more when they deserve it.

 

[Rhythm Thief]

I should point out that I know people who are teachers and I'm under no illusions as to how hard a job it is. There's no way on earth I would do it; I may work long hours as a lorry driver, but at least my work stops when I go home. I just thought the Daily Mash article was brilliant satire (as usual) and hit the nail right on the head (as usual).

 

[gavintc]

That is such a good article - loved it.

 

[Mr Pig]

That's fine if you're of the mistaken belief that they're only working while they're teaching your kids.

Oh gosh, I never thought of that! How foolish of me ;0)

Yeah, teachers spend seven nights a week marking homework and planning exiting new projects for their beloved children. Mmmm, sure they do...

 

[dudi]

Oh gosh, I never thought of that! How foolish of me ;0)

Yeah, teachers spend seven nights a week marking homework and planning exiting new projects for their beloved children. Mmmm, sure they do...

They do actually.

Both my parents are high school teachers of Science. and when I lived at home they regularly started work at 8am and finished at 9pm.
They also put up with a lot of bullshit from the kids they teach, prank calls, graffiti, vandalism, verbal abuse from parents and kids alike...

I work in the banking sector, I don't work half as hard as my parents, and I get more than half their pay...

 

[gbb]

Loved the article

I guess teaching is like being a dentist...its a shoot job, no-one would want to do it (i know i wouldnt)...and everyone resents every penny they earn.

My take...look in a school car park. They dont run about in bangers, its full of nice cars. What do they want ?...Limos ?

 

[Mr Pig]

I had a friend who was a teacher and had a white Fiat Uno. She came out to the car park one day to find that a fellow teacher had written on the wing of her car in black marker "You've got a flat" with an arrow pointing down at the tyre. The ink went right into the paint and she never got it totally off! She was livid ;0)

 

[Chuffy]

You're clearly not related to one are you? At least, not a decent one.

Don't bother Mr P.

When I was doing my teacher training I used to get plenty of crap like this from the wags at the warehouse where I spent my holidays. What was the classic that one bloke used to come out with time and again? Oh yes. "It's just childminding". Ignorant and stupid on more levels than I can be bothered to count...

 

[Rhythm Thief]

Oh gosh, I never thought of that! How foolish of me ;0)

Yeah, teachers spend seven nights a week marking homework and planning exiting new projects for their beloved children. Mmmm, sure they do...

"Exiting new projects"? Are you sure?
Any good teacher will indeed do this, which is one of the reasons I'd never do the job myself. As I said earlier, I like my work to stop when I go home, and with teaching it doesn't.
still a funny article though.

 

[Night Train]

If you look at the time they actually spend working then teachers already get vastly over paid! Totally agree with the Mash perspective, my son's high school is a joke. Pay them more when they deserve it.

I get paid from 9am-12 noon and from 1pm-4.30pm. That is 6 1/2 hours a day. I start work at 8am, work through my lunch break and don't leave until 5pm and then spend my evening catching up with the day's work and ensuring that the paper work is up to date for inspection. That can be another 3 hours of work and I have it easy as the HND course I teach hasn't changed for a few years. That is an 11 hour day.

When I was teaching School links kids on a foundation course it was more like a 13 hour day.

This is on top of extra unpaid hours marking work. For the school links foundation marking at the end of each module took two working days for each of the three classes of 16 students I taught.
For the HND I have only 6 students in the first year and 4 in the second year. Marking just each item of practical work for each module can take 1-2 hours. That is for each piece for each student all unpaid.

On top of all that I also have to attend courses for staff development for which I get £10 for each half day. On top of that I also have to study a PGCE which cost money for the course and take up 3 hours a week in the class room and about 8 hours a week in course work and research. On top of that I also have to be observed teaching in class rooms (instead of the workshop) in my own unpaid time and also observe qualified teachers in my own time.
Come OFSED inspections and I have to set aside my own time to prepare the work from my classes for inspection and produce various bits of paper work.

In all my other jobs, and I have worked in a number of industries, I have worked from 9-5 and that has been it. Any extra hours are paid for or taken as time off in lieu. Also I decided when I went on holiday and could chose a time when holidays were cheap. Can't do that as a teacher.

We don't get all summer off either as we have to work two weeks after the students have finished to finalise all the paper work for that year. Then we spend our unpaid summer updating and preparing the course for the next term including sourcing materials, updating facts and figures, reading any changes to the sylabus and the rewriting the course to ensure it meets the new criteria. We also order in any new teaching materials required and make up samples, works sheets and coursework so fit in with changes.

Now we are also expected to turn the lesson plans into popular TV gameshow formats so that the younger students can study in 5-10 minute increments and then load everything that has been done on to the college network so that it can be accessed by students on line come September.
We then start work a week before we get paid from so that we can prepare and set up classrooms, workshops, folders, storage, materials and photocopy all the notes for all the classes.

Then the long hours start again!

This is why I only want to teach 2 1/2 days a week as it take the other 2 1/2 days to fit it all in and have some evenings and weekends to myself.

I got my P60 today. I got a gross pay of £8504.55 for the year.

Fortunately I teach adults on a long standing course so I have a fairly easy time of it. School teachers are resorting to wearing body armour for their own safety and having taught woodwork to school kids I can see why it is needed.


I won't swear, Mr Pig, but sometimes you really do talk out the wrong end of your sty!

 

[Mr Pig]

 

[gavintc]

It is still a funny article. Even if we have to acknowledge that some teachers occasionally work long hours.

 

[just jim]

"Yeah, teachers spend seven nights a week marking homework and planning exiting new projects for their beloved children. Mmmm, sure they do..."

Mine does, smart alec.