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bobinski
Legendary Member
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- Tulse Hill
I suppose now you have your nice quiet neo you'll be look at something like these
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=waterproof+headphones&biw=1280&bih=800&tbas=0&tbs=cat:505771,vw:l,pdtr0:1010642|1010643,pdtr1:964184|964185,init_ar:SgZKBAir7x5KClIICNjsOiDZ7DpKClIICNLXPSDT1z0=,p_ordd,mr:1&tbm=shop&prmd=sivn&srpd=12237522111735692914&prds=num:1,of:1,epd:12237522111735692914&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiPl-m9gO_QAhWFF8AKHfvmA1QQgjYIigY
or these
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=waterproof+headphones&biw=1280&bih=800&tbas=0&tbs=cat:505771,vw:l,pdtr0:1010642|1010643,pdtr1:964184|964185,init_ar:SgZKBAir7x5KClIICNjsOiDZ7DpKClIICNLXPSDT1z0=,p_ord
nice and relatively cheap
Blooming heck
Fortunately post neo purchase I have no money and one less kidney. I also have to keep playing music while on the turbo otherwise Mrs B will notice the quiet and find out what I am up to in the loft and stumble across the Neo
Daddy Pig
Veteran
The short answer is probably! I got the email about 2 hours after I rode my recce(!) so I'm guessing he just sat behind me and saved energy, the bar tender he is. I may just wait until I have lost some weight in January. Good run from you, that was pretty quick, and yes, you'll claw a huge amount of time back in the hills!DP. I saw your time and considered for a moment, just a moment, whether to chase you down, but I decided against it and will wait until the mountains...
Are you going to re-run it to make top spot rightfully yours? Fantastic ride...
theboxers
TheBoxers on Cycle Sim sw
- Location
- OTC (on the couch)
Cheers JB I will give it a goTB. Ive stuck a ghost up for you... have fun..
DP
, Hey seriously, I don't want to embarass you too much by finishing in more than double the time it takes you to do the stage
bobinski
Legendary Member
- Location
- Tulse Hill
It did, all unpacked but still waiting for the thingamyjig to put the cassette on
blooming heavy but on the face of it incredibly well made.
Well you have my ghost to chase now too - sorry if you got"the email" but I thought you wouldn't mind me including your ghost as we're all "Team Cyclechat"!
I can honestly say I didn't draft you (not that I think it's a problem!) because a) it wasn't a 3d ride and b) surprisingly I was ahead of you all the way. To be honest I'd assumed I would be hanging on to your draft and then lose you at the end again but it didn't work out that way - probably because you haven't quite given it your all yet!
Has anyone else been unable to ride it in the 3d view by the way?
That's strange as I watched you for a few minutes in 3d
Daddy Pig
Veteran
Even weirder then! I only had the option of the map view or just the profile so I was never in 3d!
Daddy Pig
Veteran
I think Bkool was on a go slow earlier which may have caused the problems.
Both! Obviously the watts are nonsense. I am starting to have a theory on these increasingly high watts - particularly on flat courses like this. I think if you're a powerful enough rider to overcome the resistance the trainer sets you get exponentially more "bkool watts". I don't know the physics well enough to explain exactly what I mean but I know in real life you're mostly fighting wind resistance, and the faster you go the harder it gets (someone else can hopefully explain this more technically!). But in bkool, the resistance is fixed, based on what the algorithm decides for your weight and the slope etc, and if you go faster and faster, it doesn't get harder and harder as it would in real life, it just keeps the same resistance. And I don't think the speed and watts algorithm takes account of this so just allows you to go faster and therefore show higher and higher watts. I think it's ok up to a certain amount of (real) power but falls apart a bit over a certain amount. That's my theory if it makes any sense....?My Bridgy that is huge wattsIs it just one of those special courses or where you working really hard?
Soarerv8
Über Member
Perhaps we ought to discuss fee first though rather than rely on your hourly rate?I assumed YOU would have personal shopper
Actually, is there position going spare? I have helped you spend money before
Daddy Pig
Veteran
I was in the velodrome yesterday and was cruising around at abut 55kph, pushing around 480 watts or so. However I then started to push around 850 watts and the speed only went up to around 80 kph. Dropping back to 40kph I was using only 250 watts. So this is definitely not a linear progression in a power/speed graph. This would indicate that there is an increase in resistance (in this case wind resistance) the faster you go. Otherwise if I double the power, I would double my speed.
Don't forget that Power = Force x Velocity
Or, Velocity = Power/force
Now, force = mass x acceleration
So, velocity = power/(mass x acceleration)
If there were no adjustments to resistance, this would mean that the accelerative force would remain the same. The mass would also be the same (although some of us can sweat out a fair amount!). Therefore you would have a linear graph of increased power being directly proportional to the resultant velocity, which I do not think is the case.
It may be that the additional resistance added due to higher velocity is too little at the top end. The power/speed graph should be exponential and it is quite possible that this curve is too shallow, which I think is what @bridgy is implying. It may be that they need to adjust their algorithm slightly in this respect which would be more representative of the greater effect of wind resistance.
Make sense?
