Teenage freedoms

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What, where, when, how..

One nearly 17 and one 15. 17 is an awkward age is it not. Not quite an adult and despite the confident manner, not quite worldly either. So how do you manage what they do and don't do. It wasn't that long ago he was still potty training, honestly, where did the time go.
 

screenman

Squire
What was you doing at 17, is a question I asked myself when the kids got to that age. I know at 18 I was married with a nipper, being made homeless and starting my first business. Scarey times.
 

MarkF

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
I don't manage her life at all, it's her life to lead. Hopefully over the past 17 years I'll have given her as much guidance and support as she requires to make the right choices and the life that she chooses to live finds the right balance.

Yes, every child is different and there are no default parental skills. I've a 15 and a 19 year old, brought up exactly the same, yet are like chalk and cheese. Youngest has a big world, lots of friends (real ones) and is a busy straight ahead kid. His elder brother spends his time in bed, looking at his i-phone or making one calamitous life/work decision after another. The 15 year old is the 19 year old and vice versa, it's painful to watch it all play out.
 

w00hoo_kent

One of the 64K
We went for trying to explain our reasoning for stuff that we were doing, or restrictions we were giving and not sweating the small stuff. They will be 20 in a week or two and I'm not sure either of us know if we got it right or not. In some ways they are fantastic, in others we despair with added despair on top. At the moment we're hoping all the money spent on Uni wasn't a complete waste (they are in the summer break between years 2 and 3) while it looks like they'll get a degree it also sounds like what the course has taught them is that they don't want to try and make a living in any way related to it.

I think the main thing we'd try and do differently is harder restrictions on 'stuff'. We've always been pretty soft touches on shelling out cash for this thing and that thing while trying to emphasise the value of what was being bought, but it would probably have been better if we'd gone the route of saying 'you want it, earn some money and buy it' a bit more often. Tough one as we don't live anywhere they could easily have got a job (without us taxiing them everywhere) and we didn't want them to spend time they should have been studying for school earning money for 'stuff'. But I think it's the big thing we'd have done differently. It's been something we've been doing during the Uni years quite a bit, especially during the summer. Although I think all it's done is get them an overdraft...
 

raleighnut

Legendary Member
I would have hated to deal with me when I saw 17 as a parent, fortunately my girlfriend and I had a flat and both of us had well paid jobs (relatively) beer and fags were cheap, but then "the milk snatcher" came into power and everything started down the slope to where it is now.
I never had kids but thanks to Maz I ended up with 2 just over 20 years ago, they didn't have it too bad but when I see what the Grandchildren have to put up with:cursing:.
The second eldest is 21 and her and her partner are having to jump through hoops to change from a 1 bed flat to a 2 bed with the imminent arrival of our first Great Grandson as both of them work but don't want to rent in the "private" sector as this means giving up their Housing Association flat.
 

luckyfox

She's the cats pajamas
Location
County Durham
I don't manage her life at all, it's her life to lead. Hopefully over the past 17 years I'll have given her as much guidance and support as she requires to make the right choices and the life that she chooses to live finds the right balance.
Agreed. It's their life and they have to make their own way, own mistakes. You can only do what you can do, be there when needed and accept it's their choices.
 

welsh dragon

Thanks but no thanks. I think I'll pass.
When your 17 your invincible, you know everything, the world is at your feet, just waiting for you to take it. Then you come crashing down to earth with a bang.

We think back to when we were 17 and in most cases that's a frightening thing to do, because we hope to god our kids aren't doing a fraction of the things we did. But they won't listen if you speak, because they know it all. You won't and don't understand the problems they are having because your old and you have never known what it's like to be in love, or what it's like to be young, and things are different now.

As a parent of a son or daughter of that age, all we can do it stand back, say nothing, hopefully they will come to us of they're own free will and let us into theyre world and
confide in us even for just a moment.

As a parent, it is often very painful and difficult for us to do that, to say nothing, to do nothing, to just wait, but more often than not, they will confide in us if we are patient. That's what we are, that's what we do as parents. We are here for them waiting in the wngs, being non judgemental. And it doesn't get any better the older they get. Yes in the end, they do find some common sense, and work ethos. They find partners, and hopefully a career path, and eventually they may even have children of they're own. Then it begins all over again.

The joys of having children as they say. Be patient. Remember when you were they're age, you knew everything, and wouldn't listen to anyone. Thats what they're doing now.
just have patience. And the best of luck.
 

marknotgeorge

Hol den Vorschlaghammer!
Location
Derby.
I've one of 12 and one of 9. Both intelligent, pretty, outgoing girls. Sometimes I feel like I'm standing at the edge of an abyss. I think I might outsource boyfriend duties to their Royal Marine sergeant uncle...
 
If they are boys then don't worry! Nothing you can do. If they are girls then sit them down and show them back to back episodes of The Inbetweeners until they accept that is what boys are like and then also leave them to it.
Hopefully they have a sense of right and wrong and that is what they will work to . Hopefully this will not be too far off your right and wrong but you will get nowhere imposing your right and wrong on them.
Bible bashing friends were very strict on their girls and so the youngest at 17 has quit school and shacked up with her local drug dealer boyfriend. You need to accept that they will see themselves as quite grown up now.
Oh and remember what it was like at their age!
 

surfdude

Veteran
Location
cornwall
If they are boys then don't worry , just give them some condoms and a talk about not getting a girl pregnant .
if they are girls then don't worry , just give them some condoms and a talk about not getting pregnant .
drugs and booze might need a mention as well .
above all don't tell them don't do this or that because its the first thing they will do
 

summerdays

Cycling in the sun
Location
Bristol
So far mine seem reasonably ok without being perfect. I would love it if they did more around the house to help or if they were tidier, but when the eldest is at Uni they have to sort that out for themselves.

However I think the important thing they need to know is that you are there to offer advice or sound out something. It's up to them if they take your advice, but they need to know that they can talk to you even if it is something you don't want to hear! Even the most sensible can get themselves in a pickle.

Lay down a few rules about what time they should be in by (weekday/weekend) and that they need to lock up if they are the last ones in. Talk to them about who they get in a car with, that is actually one of the scarier things I think, inexperienced drivers who may add alcohol or drugs into the mix. Mine know I would rather pick them up or pay for a taxi than take that chance, and no we don't normally pick them up unless arranged beforehand.
 
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