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Discussion in 'Commuting' started by bianchi1, 17 Apr 2008.

  1. bianchi1

    bianchi1 Veteran

    Interesting letter!

    Vicious cycles

    Sir - Am I the only commuter clambering on to South Eastern's trains early each morning to be irritated intensely by the proliferation of fold-up bicycles?

    Not only does this quasi-environmental fad lead to a marked reduction in the amount of standing space at rush-hour but the owners of these technological annoyances proceed to sweat in close proximity to other passengers.

    Are they really a creditable green initiative? One has only to stand at the entrance of Sevenoaks station at 6.30am to witness a host of city businessmen being dropped off by energy-sapping four-wheel-drive vehicles.

    I advocate a prohibitive fare policy for people who habitually drag large chunks of metal on to busy trains merely to satisfy a misguided mission to save the planet.

    David Pyle, Sevenoaks, Kent
  2. gazzaputt

    gazzaputt New Member

    Bexley, Kent
    He talks bollox
  3. What an idiot
  4. HJ

    HJ Cycling in Scotland

    Auld Reekie
    There we have the views of a typical Telegraph reader, sad isn't it...
  5. iacula

    iacula Senior Member

    I think he's a Green Party plant to make Telegraph readers look moronic
  6. MERV

    MERV New Member

    The Mile End Road
    Im in the travel industry and I dont find fold up bikes any problem at all.
  7. zimzum42

    zimzum42 Legendary Member

    why do they commute anyway? if they want to work in london they should bite the bullet and live there, not try to pursue some countryside fantasy by living in some crap suburb....
  8. John the Monkey

    John the Monkey Frivolous Cyclist

    'Tis my paper of choice, and was my grandfather's too - I don't mind folding bikes on trains, and I don't think he would have either, for what that's worth :becool:

    The real problem is, I suspect that the trains don't have anywhere near enough room (in a civilised country, there'd be space for people and their luggage, maybe even (gasp!) some room for full sized bikes), as any fule kno.
  9. PBancroft

    PBancroft Senior Member

    Let us formulate a reply!


    In reply to David Pyle regarding the proliferation of foldaway bicycles, may I suggest that he find alternative forms of transport if he finds being close to other persons so annoying?

    Maybe he could try cycling?

  10. zimzum42

    zimzum42 Legendary Member


    Perhaps I could suggest that David Pyle, who finds folding bicycles such an annoyance, allow those with said bicycles to store them in his undoubtedly spacious rectum.

  11. Crock of Gold

    Crock of Gold Guest

    I went to Sevenoaks a couple of months ago for a meeting. I got the train in for 8.30 from Kingston via central London. Thought I would walk to the venue - about 2 miles away.

    Walked a mile and half through the town centre past the Public School. A traffic jam made up of nothing but 4x4s as far as the eye could see. One bloke on a racing bike.

    Worst thing was turning off the main road to walk the last half mile to the venue. What the map did not show (when I checked the route the evening before) was that the road was actually a winding, hilly, pathless country lane with massive houses and massive 4x4s hurtling round blind corners. Walking that half-mile my brogues were mud-splattered, 4x4 mums looked at me suspiciously as they raked suddenly to avoid hitting me on the blind corners.

    And at the venue (another public school) the Guard hurtled out of his cabin to check my credentials.

    everyone else at the meeting, of course, drove in their or caught a taxi.

    Sevenoaks may have been central London.
  12. domtyler

    domtyler Über Member

    I can kind of understand where he is coming from. If I was catching the train in I would probably be in my suit and feeling nice and clean, I would not want some idiots Brompton pushed up against my leg and for him to proceed to drip sweat all over me. I would be very annoyed.

    Ultimately people get annoyed at different things, he is annoyed at people with Bromptons, other people get annoyed at people driving 4x4s, what's the difference?
  13. fossyant

    fossyant Ride It Like You Stole It!

    South Manchester
    What a total knob jockey !
  14. zimzum42

    zimzum42 Legendary Member

    regardless of if they have been cycling or not, it's bad form to be dripping with sweat in a cramped train anyway.......

    There's something about brompton riders, they always seem to be going hell for leather with their silly little wheels!
  15. Origamist

    Origamist Guru

    The thrust of his argument is misplaced - most people who ride bikes (including folders) do not do so simply for environmental reasons. However, if he had not poured scorn on the Green movement, the letter would not have been published in The Telegraph.

    It was disappointing that Mr Pyle was not a retired colonel, but at least he was from the home counties...
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