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You mean they might ask to look at a passport? With a piccy of you inside it? Seems entirely reasonable. There's one place i fly to regularly in italy. It has got a bit better recently but many times within the last ten years i have had to wait in a very slow moving queue while a bored looking individual slowly slowly looked at documents.

One or two (ok maybe 1) of the posts above (not yours) seem to be raising the spectre of the iron curtain. I can't see what we traditionally think of as western europe changing much in this respect, discounting of course checks to do with the threat of terrorist nut jobs, which is an entirely different issue.
Nor is britain going to make visiting germans, italians, french folk get visas. Why would we?
A bit of perspective please.
We are talking about folks on holiday.
If there was even the slightest chance of visa controls don't you think the likes of easyjet would be mounting a massive pr campaign warning, quite naturally, of massive economic consequences for all? And them.


It is possible in suppose that if the likes of poland went a certain way politically they might get a bit difficult. It would be very unwise of them though. Do they really want to go back to the days pre 89 when i had to appeal, via an employer, against their initial refusal to grant me a visa for a holiday?
 
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jay clock

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I have one of these and very happy with it. https://scandinavianoutdoor.com/wil...qhZM9BR7m9cvcuQn8KnIDBXKyP-0Im-cJMaAhF28P8HAQ - may be cheaper than that. Two man but only one in real life. However worth noting I have a friend who has one for sale that he used cycling across the US (am guessing 30 nights in it) and has decided he wanted bigger so gone for a Big Agnes. PM me if you want to know more

Also the pegs on most tents are not up to much and I have found these stunning http://www.cleats.co.uk/review/product/list/id/15/category/10/ (friend above also has them)
 

Brains

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Tents:

Tents, like bikes are built to a budget or a spec, one or the other.

Therefore you tend to get what you pay for.
Whatever the spec of the tent, for cycle touring you want a tent with space for one more person, so a two man tent for one, and three man tent for two

The Campag of tents are Hilleberg, Terra Nova, TNF with prices that are around the £400-£700 area
(The 'ultimate' cycle touring tent is the Hilleberg Nallo 2 or 3 which starts at around £600)

The middle of the range tents will do a fine job, they weigh slightly more, they pack down slightly bigger, poles length is an issue on a bike, they will be longer. and the tent wont have some of the nice features such as extra pockets, zips, vents, guys. Cost ranges about £250-£350

The BSO of tents are many, they are designed as disposables, a couple of nights at Glastonbury or a weekend doing the D of E, and then back into the attic.
They usually have fibreglass poles, a single skin, string guys, wire pegs, and some may even be waterproof Prices start at £30 and go up to £150+

Having said which I've seen cyclists with these tents two weeks into a holiday and loving it.
(Until the inevitable downpour that keeps you trapped in a tent for 3 days in Snowdonia at Easter, at which point the campsite skip fills up and you see them dragging a soggy mass of sleeping bags home on the train)
 

Brandane

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You mean they might ask to look at a passport? With a piccy of you inside it? Seems entirely reasonable
As already happens when entering the UK from mainland Europe. Open borders never really existed here anyway, so "Brexit" will make sod all difference. The only difference, which has already happened, is that the pound is worth hee-haw so your trip to the real Europe is going to be even more expensive than it was. And we'll be mobbed by Johnny Foreigner spending euros like they're going out of fashion because the UK is so cheap (for them), while we all struggle to make ends meet in minimum wage call centre sweat-shops.
 

doog

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You must be getting on a bit: the Treaty of Rome was signed in 1957.

Let's not forget that many of the countries in the European Union, not to mention half of Germany, were behind the Iron Curtain and you definitely didn't get waved through that (although OK it wasn't hard to go on holiday to the former Yugoslavia).

If that's getting on a bit ^_^ ...there's no hope then . Did the Treaty of Rome per se made any difference to border controls ,it was all successive from then onwards but very slowly - decades later borders were still quite restrictive but yes, we were often waved through and Yugoslavia was indeed worth visiting..

I guess the point is (and my grown up kids are guilty of it) people appear to be under illusion travel within the EU will be a nightmare come brexit which is relevant on a touring forum but not a discussion about tents - guilty as charged. I personally don't think it will be.
 
Anything with fibreglass poles will eventually shatter the poles in strong winds. I've got a number of Vango fibreglass pole tents and awnings and replace about one pole a year in light use, though to be fair I did get hit by 40 mile an hour gusts this 'summer'. Metal poles generally take this kind of flexing better but when they do go they're not fixable, though you can get sleeve kits for some. I tend to go cheap these days with a view to replacing more often as even cheap tents are way better than a decade ago.
 

the_mikey

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Anything with fibreglass poles will eventually shatter the poles in strong winds. I've got a number of Vango fibreglass pole tents and awnings and replace about one pole a year in light use, though to be fair I did get hit by 40 mile an hour gusts this 'summer'. Metal poles generally take this kind of flexing better but when they do go they're not fixable, though you can get sleeve kits for some. I tend to go cheap these days with a view to replacing more often as even cheap tents are way better than a decade ago.

+1
 

robing

Über Member
I have not a lot of experience of tents, but in general Outwell, Vaude, Vango seem ok, I quite like my Vango blade 100, lightweight, quick and easy to erect, although it's best if you're less than 170cm tall.
I also have the Vango blade 100 and like it. Quite roomy and only 1.5kg. I'm about 176cm and have no problem.
 
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Tents:

Tents, like bikes are built to a budget or a spec, one or the other.

Therefore you tend to get what you pay for.
Whatever the spec of the tent, for cycle touring you want a tent with space for one more person, so a two man tent for one, and three man tent for two

The Campag of tents are Hilleberg, Terra Nova, TNF with prices that are around the £400-£700 area
(The 'ultimate' cycle touring tent is the Hilleberg Nallo 2 or 3 which starts at around £600)

The middle of the range tents will do a fine job, they weigh slightly more, they pack down slightly bigger, poles length is an issue on a bike, they will be longer. and the tent wont have some of the nice features such as extra pockets, zips, vents, guys. Cost ranges about £250-£350

The BSO of tents are many, they are designed as disposables, a couple of nights at Glastonbury or a weekend doing the D of E, and then back into the attic.
They usually have fibreglass poles, a single skin, string guys, wire pegs, and some may even be waterproof Prices start at £30 and go up to £150+

Having said which I've seen cyclists with these tents two weeks into a holiday and loving it.
(Until the inevitable downpour that keeps you trapped in a tent for 3 days in Snowdonia at Easter, at which point the campsite skip fills up and you see them dragging a soggy mass of sleeping bags home on the train)
Interesting post brains, but I think you can get a "mid range" tent for somewhat less than you indicate, especially in the current sales. And fibreglass poles will disappear somewhat below £150. For less than £150 you can in fact i think get a decent mid range tent. I picked up a tent for £109 recently that a professional runner of cycle tours raves about.
 
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robing

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Don't go too cheap though. I bought a yellowsnow tent from amazon and it fell apart on the first use.
 

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