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Married to Night Train
Location
Salford, UK
Jakes Dad said:
Dont be so Naive

The police have to cut their spending by 5 billion £££'s over the next 3 years so you can expect alot more of these Taxes i mean on the spot fines to increase the revenue that they are going to lose from central Government

Simon
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Of course, it's easy to avoid such 'taxes' by not breaking the law, isn't it? Hence, I don't expect any increase in 'taxes' as I never do anything likely to attract the attention of an officer.

Plus, as BM points out, they don't just pocket the money, do they.
 
TheDoctor

TheDoctor

Noble and true, with a heart of steel
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The TerrorVortex
Well, speeding fines and such are effectively a tax on stupidity and selfishness.
I see nothing wrong with that.
 
Vikeonabike

Vikeonabike

CC Neighbourhood Police Constable
Location
Bourne, Lincolnshire
BentMikey said:
And who do the fines get paid to? HMRC, or the police?
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Certainly doesn't get paid to the police...or we'd all be traffic cops filling constabulary coffers.

Police Forces can raise revenue...however that is from a small percentage of recovered money from crime! It's a drop in the ocean to be honest!
 
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Twenty Inch

Guru
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Behind a desk
TheDoctor said:
Well, speeding fines and such are effectively a tax on stupidity and selfishness.
I see nothing wrong with that.
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Ditto.

It's a good thing there are coppers on bikes. Although they may be implementing perverse traffic policy decisions eg City of London's outrageous campaign against cyclists, in the long term, some of these coppers who are now spending their shifts cycling around our major towns will reach senior rank and be setting priorities and policies. Hopefully they'll remember cyclists in them.

Of course, by then, petrol will be £10 a litre, driving will be as socially unacceptable as pimping your wife, and cyclists will be the vast majority of traffic on our roads. Looking forward to a quieter, more local existence.
 
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Clamson

New Member
Location
Bucks
Twenty Inch said:
Of course, by then, petrol will be £10 a litre, driving will be as socially unacceptable as pimping your wife, and cyclists will be the vast majority of traffic on our roads. Looking forward to a quieter, more local existence.
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Unfortunately, by then there will probably be alternatives to petrol/diesel. Stealthy electric cars that you can't hear coming, driven by the same old fools.
 
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Clamson

New Member
Location
Bucks
Norm said:
Excellent, another local. :laugh:

I'm usually through town (going from Bray towards Cliveden) by about 8:15, but, just in case I'm late, anything that stands out in your clothing so I can give a wave?
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I suspect that some people here may not approve, but my usual attire in winter is a black Metallica hoodie, black gloves, a black beanie and black trousers. With a black backpack and black shoes.

My reasoning is that I am currently learning to drive. The first part of a cyclist I see (and the only part, until you are VERY close) is the lights (and mine are quite good). The hi-vis does nothing to make cyclists more visible to me when I am driving. Of course, this could just be that I am flourescent yellow/luminous white colour blind...
 
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BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
No, I'm most definitely with you there Clamson.
 
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d3v

New Member
Location
Derby
On the spot fines, eh. What about the fines for not filling your bins properly.
Let's face it, if they could, they would charge us for breathing air.

Don't pay these fines, they are not even lawful, just merely statutes ordered by a corrupt government and parliament.
 
Rhythm Thief

Rhythm Thief

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Location
Ross on Wye
Clamson said:
I suspect that some people here may not approve, but my usual attire in winter is a black Metallica hoodie, black gloves, a black beanie and black trousers. With a black backpack and black shoes.

My reasoning is that I am currently learning to drive. The first part of a cyclist I see (and the only part, until you are VERY close) is the lights (and mine are quite good). The hi-vis does nothing to make cyclists more visible to me when I am driving. Of course, this could just be that I am flourescent yellow/luminous white colour blind...
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I would disagree with this, which will come as no surprise to BM. Speaking as a professional driver for the last ten years, and an amateur one for ten years before that, I find cyclists much more visible if they have at least two lights front and back (preferably one flashing) and hi viz or pedal reflectors. The hi viz helps to pick out detail above the light and gives something else for the eye to fix on to help interpret the light. As an example, I saw a cyclist tonight with a front light (albeit a very dim one) which was lost against the background of car lights, but his hi viz vest enabled me to identify him before I saw his lights. It's possible it's different in well lit urban areas - this was on a very dark rural B road - but I wouldn't underestimate how easy it is for even quite good bike lights to be lost among a sea of 60 watt car headlights. Flashing LEDs are very effective at getting cyclists noticed.
 
Origamist

Origamist

Legendary Member
Rhythm Thief said:
I would disagree with this, which will come as no surprise to BM. Speaking as a professional driver for the last ten years, and an amateur one for ten years before that, I find cyclists much more visible if they have at least two lights front and back (preferably one flashing) and hi viz or pedal reflectors. The hi viz helps to pick out detail above the light and gives something else for the eye to fix on to help interpret the light.
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Would you say you notice any difference in the conspicuity of cyclists when driving a HGV as opposed to driving a car? I'm thinking your eye level is going to much higher than your average car driver's when in the cab. How, if at all, does this affect the visibility of cyclists and there lights?
 
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