The AA Complaining Again

[subaqua]

I cant help but laugh at all the smug cyclist that dont use their car so are'nt bothered by the fuel increase or would like to see it higher .. pretty much everything you buy in the shops arrives there in a truck that does around 6/8 MPG so every time the fuel prices go up so will your weekly shopping bill .. such a short sighted bunch

aaah so you didn't read my post then

 

[DiddlyDodds]

Tonight i will be driving mainly in 1st gear using a much fuel as possible as i am extremely richer then you, and use up all the so called carbon foot print miles up that some tree huger in dungarees has saved all year.
I will drive totally aimlessly in a manner befitting a driver who drives for pleasure, as i live in a free country and laugh in the face of the car hater community .
Then i might ride my bike to the recycle depot and put glass in the paper bin and tins in the plastic bin with total gay abandonment.
After that i will return to my chair in the home and take my sedatives.

 

[Manonabike]

Well, the bus driver wouldn't let me on the bus when I bought a tin of paint. I'm sure that he wouldn't let me on with two tool boxes, a couple of power tools, a stack of timber and a ladder.

I could use a Maximus but I would struggle to visit two clients 20 miles from me, in different directions, in the same day and still have time and energy left to do the job in hand.

I suppose the world would be better if all new bikes were ridden cross country from the factory in China to the LBS in the UK.
Roadies out on their Sunday morning ride could hitch on a trailer and help deliver the goods from the distribution depot to the local Tesco's too. That would save a few people from wanting to drive trucks about.

An excellent reply

I cant help but laugh at all the smug cyclist that dont use their car so are'nt bothered by the fuel increase or would like to see it higher .. pretty much everything you buy in the shops arrives there in a truck that does around 6/8 MPG so every time the fuel prices go up so will your weekly shopping bill .. such a short sighted bunch

Indeed

 

[Belly]

I didn't know that there was a Taliban Cycling Group. FFS, grow up and get to grips with the reality that the majority of those who ride bikes are also motorists.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Why are some on here determined to make it a case of "us and them" on the roads? The vast majority of cyclists that I know are also drivers, myself included. I would say the price of petrol is already way too high, thanks to the tax on it. If you really think that motorists/hauliers are out there driving for the hell of it, then you are sadly mistaken.

Vast majority of motorists are driving through choice. Hauliers ultimately pass their costs on to the rest of us.

It is a fact of life that the car has become pretty much a necessity for most people.

Not a fact merely an opinion

Maybe they are not fortunate enough to live close enough to their work to commute by bike.

The vast majority of the population have choice over where they live and work.

If they are solo in their car, perhaps they don't work in the same location and do the same shifts as people who live near them.

The vast majority are solo in the car through choice. They make a choice to park close to their workplace. Very few as in a single digit % of the people employed hereabouts work shifts, according to the economic unit of the local council.

If your own personal circumstances suit you being able to cycle everywhere, then lucky you. But please don't wish the worst on the rest of us. If I was a non cyclist reading your post, it wouldn't do my attitude towards cyclists a whole lot of good.

cycling is my choice.

If you were a non cyclist and someone's posting in a forum would damage your attitude to cyclists as a group/whole then you'd be a exercising a choice to be a numpty.

 

[snorri]

Do they? Some people have disabilities or live in remote locations so rely on their cars. What would you suggest they use, a horse and cart? I'm sure the "Greens" would find a reason to complain, maybe it would be piles of "poop" on their expensive tyres.

The number of new houses being built remotely from any form of public transport and certainly too far from shops and services to be accessible by foot or bicycle would suggest to me that road fuel costs are not of great concern to many in my locality.
Regarding horses, if fuel was so expensive why don't the owners keep their horses at home and ride to these centres instead of driving there?

 

[RedRider]

We've spent the last 50 years designing our lives and our infrastructure around cars and lorries. This might have been a mistake. It's a painful road back.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

I didn't know that there was a Taliban Cycling Group. FFS, grow up and get to grips with the reality that the majority of those who ride bikes are also motorists.

I'd suggest you grow up and realise everyone doesn't think the same as you. (Is it worth making the point that those motorists most obvious as cyclists, on account of the bikes strapped to their cars, are often seem to be some of the worst drivers in respect of how they treat cyclists?)

what do we reckon £1.50 a litre for unleaded by August? £2.00 by Christmas? £2.50 by Christmas 2013? £5.00 a litre by end of 2015? In an economy on the slide and where incomes are declining in real terms, and where global demand is increasing for a scarce resource how much does it have to cost to get people to exercise choice and cut down or quit their habit?

 

[GrumpyGregry]

I cant help but laugh at all the smug cyclist that dont use their car so are'nt bothered by the fuel increase or would like to see it higher .. pretty much everything you buy in the shops arrives there in a truck that does around 6/8 MPG so every time the fuel prices go up so will your weekly shopping bill .. such a short sighted bunch

My weekly shopping bill for my entire family could double, and then some, and I'd still quids in through not buying petrol for a car....

 

[Belly]

Greg, you really are a Taliban Wheeler. Get a grip mate.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

I suspect those that don't care about petrol prices work and live in large cities where everything is to hand, jobs are plentiful, and public transport is good. Good for you; but you can keep your concrete wonderland, thanks.

Sorry to disappoint but your suspicions are wrong.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Greg, you really are a Taliban Wheeler. Get a grip mate.

Is name calling the best argument you can muster?

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Painful indeed but we may as well face up to it.

sooner we start sooner we get used to it.

 

[ASC1951]

I and Im sure a lot of others dont have a choice, so the more fuel goes up, the deeper the sinking feeling is in my guts.

- and I sympathise. My reply was to Brandane, who said he had a choice and was bragging that he had chosen to live somewhere rural.

 

[Muddyfox]

My weekly shopping bill for my entire family could double, and then some, and I'd still quids in through not buying petrol for a car....

But you would'nt be quids in would you .. because if your weekly shopping bill doubles then YOU would be paying the extra fuel duty for the haulier that delivers all of the goods to the supermarket, so effectively you are volunteering to pay extra taxes on fuel even though you dont drive .. what an amazing outlook you have