The black boxes from Air india disaster.

[Mike_P]

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There are plenty of aural alarms on a modern jet airliner. I don't think the confusion resulted from lack of one.

Problem identified in many crashes is too many alarms/warnings occurring at the same time.

 

[lazybloke]

There are plenty of aural alarms on a modern jet airliner. I don't think the confusion resulted from lack of one.

And yet the "MCAS crashes" had missing alarms or indicators, and google reports the seriousness of the underlying sensor problem had been known in advance by the manufacturer.

I wasn't trying to start a serious discussion, as none of us have enough facts. My only point was there should never be any doubt about whether or not the fuel has been cut off or not.

 

[DaveReading]

My only point was there should never be any doubt about whether or not the fuel has been cut off or not.

The doubt appears to have been about how and why, not whether. Both engines spooling down is hard to miss.