The faster the speed, the greater the mess

[Night Train]

I disagree - it's exactly this kind of thing that changed drink driving, and will slowly but surely making speeding socially unacceptable. Some people will still do it, but lots more will cease.

One thing with drink driving, from my experience, was that people started refusing to get in a car with a mate who had a drink. With speed you are already in a car and negotiating with the driver to slow down. That doesn't seem to go down too well and the driver sometimes speeds up while arguing the point.

I do hope that making speed unacceptable will eventually rub off on the masses though. Using the phone while driving doesn't seem to have done.

 

[Sh4rkyBloke]

I agree the advert is powerful, and some may take note and slow down... the point is that a lot won't. And, as has been said, unless there's some proper backing from the Law side of things it's going to be fairly useless - look at using a mobile whilst driving... still seems to be a common ocurrence as far as I can tell/see.

 

[stoatsngroats]

The only way to reduce speeding, is by physically preventing higher speeds....we all know that MOST speed humps are not very worthy, and that speed cameras work for the 100 or so metres where they view.

I know that many people are against the 'time over distance' method of calculating speed, and photographing those who can be shown to have exceeded the limt , but this should exist on all major roads afaic...

To reduce speed in towns, major changes in road widths, and straight length reduction is needed; camera monitored 'Pelican/Toucan' crossings should be trebled.....one every 100 metres or so!

Finally, ALL pavements in towns should have barriers preventing people crossing at other that traffic signal controlled crossings......!

If this was invoked, I'm sure car numbers would reduce!

I think these things, and I say them too, but it'll never happen, BUT I'm damned sure they'd make a difference!!!

 

[magnatom]

The only way to reduce speeding, is by physically preventing higher speeds....we all know that MOST speed humps are not very worthy, and that speed cameras work for the 100 or so metres where they view.

I know that many people are against the 'time over distance' method of calculating speed, and photographing those who can be shown to have exceeded the limt , but this should exist on all major roads afaic...

To reduce speed in towns, major changes in road widths, and straight length reduction is needed; camera monitored 'Pelican/Toucan' crossings should be trebled.....one every 100 metres or so!

Finally, ALL pavements in towns should have barriers preventing people crossing at other that traffic signal controlled crossings......!

If this was invoked, I'm sure car numbers would reduce!

I think these things, and I say them too, but it'll never happen, BUT I'm damned sure they'd make a difference!!!

As far as I am aware average speed cameras work well. I'm all for more of those.

 

[Cab]

As far as I am aware average speed cameras work well. I'm all for more of those.

If you'd come to Cambridge by road, then you'd probably have come on the A14, which has average speed cameras. They work really rather well, except for those people who still speed but then stop off for a cuppa at services to kill time.

Not a great approach in urban environments though.

 

[Arch]

One thing with drink driving, from my experience, was that people started refusing to get in a car with a mate who had a drink. With speed you are already in a car and negotiating with the driver to slow down. That doesn't seem to go down too well and the driver sometimes speeds up while arguing the point.

That's a good point.

As for the video, I'm afraid it sort of just looked like one of the more eventful episodes of Casualty to me. I'm afraid it would only have an effect on a few, like people have said. The trouble is, everyone thinks "well, it won't happen to me" until it does and by then it's too late...

 

[GrahamG]

Finally, ALL pavements in towns should have barriers preventing people crossing at other that traffic signal controlled crossings......!

This is widely acknowledged as increasing vehicle speeds - it removes the risk of pedestrians stepping off the curb therefore removing one element of risk from a driver's perception of the road. It also increase risks for cyclists, reduces pedestrian accessibility, 'hems in' pedestrians for long stretches which in many areas has caused problems of personal security (no escape from a mugging there!), etc. etc.
Very bad idea.

 

[hackbike 6]

Finally, ALL pavements in towns should have barriers preventing people crossing at other that traffic signal controlled crossings......!

I just try to be more tolerant of ped's.I know when im pedding about it can be a bit of a pain to walk half a mile up the road when it's easier to cross responsibly.(hopefully)

 

[dondare]

Pedestrians were there first. They have right of way on all roads except motorways, and vehicles should give way to them. Quite right, too.

 

[stoatsngroats]

Very bad idea.

OK... I wasn't aware of those concerns.....I'll never think this is a good idea again...

...but I stand by the rest of my post!!

 

[stoatsngroats]

Finally, ALL pavements in towns should have barriers preventing people crossing at other that traffic signal controlled crossings......!

I just try to be more tolerant of ped's.I know when im pedding about it can be a bit of a pain to walk half a mile up the road when it's easier to cross responsibly.(hopefully)

.....yep, but I originally made the point that crossings should be every 100m or so...that would have the knock on efect of slowing traffic.....


butGraham G has corrected me, and I withdraw this point (only!) from my original post......(I know a losing horse when I see one!!!)

 

[Rhythm Thief]

"The faster the speed, the bigger the mess"? That's really grating English. Should be "The higher the speed ..." surely?

Am I the only one who finds the use of English annoying here?
No wonder the country's going to the dogs (harrumph, etc.).

 

[Dayvo]

Am I the only one who finds the use of English annoying here?No wonder the country's going to the dogs (harrumph, etc.).

Which language would you prefer, RT?

 

[Riding in Circles]

If you have on carriageway cycle lanes that are marked with a rumble strip, drivers are pushed towards the centre of the road with on coming traffic, this slows the right down.