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SpokeyDokey

68, & my GP says I will officially be old at 70!
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Cos it's never happened before? Like someone gets sent off and then it gets rescinded, but they don't hand the win and points to the wronged team afterwards.
No guarantee the penalty would have been scored anyhow. These things seem to even themselves out (other than no opponent would get a penalty awarded at Old Trafford :whistle: )

I think it's a good move by Riley, who is a pretty arrogant so and so, maybe he is finally getting the message that the Ref's association has a lot to answer for.

Wasn't there some analysis a while back that showed that 'evening out' was not supported by the stats and was just a trotted out cliche? Not a dig at you btw👍

Week after week we see really bad decisions and the Ref's simply closes ranks and says nothing.

Great match on Saturday but how did Kieta even stay on the pitch - let alone not even get a yellow? Same with Mane when LFC visited us earlier in the season.

Both appalling and unpunished tackles.

Ref's need a kick up the rump tbh.
 

yello

back and brave
Location
France
These things seem to even themselves out
They don't. Not really. It's just what people say.

Sure, some decisions go for the a team and some don't but there's no celestial tally marking and evening up. I'm sure some Bridgewatertown fan will tell you they've had 17 VAR decisions go against them this season alone and only 1 for. Or something ;)
 

jowwy

Not here offten enough to argue
I think it's a good move by Riley, who is a pretty arrogant so and so, maybe he is finally getting the message that the Ref's association has a lot to answer for.

Wasn't there some analysis a while back that showed that 'evening out' was not supported by the stats and was just a trotted out cliche? Not a dig at you btw👍

Week after week we see really bad decisions and the Ref's simply closes ranks and says nothing.

Great match on Saturday but how did Kieta even stay on the pitch - let alone not even get a yellow? Same with Mane when LFC visited us earlier in the season.

Both appalling and unpunished tackles.

Ref's need a kick up the rump tbh.
because the match was sunday………your still so bitter about losing, you got your days mixed up.

lets be fair, both kieta and chalobah missed the ball and yes kieta’s leg/boot caught chalobah by accident, there was certainly no intent on kietas behalf to hurt or injure chalobah, they both had high feet towards the ball……..

but it was 3 days ago, the same as rhodris handball was 4 days ago, nothing is going to change, no matter how much moaning is done or refs apologise……
 

SpokeyDokey

68, & my GP says I will officially be old at 70!
Moderator
because the match was sunday………your still so bitter about losing, you got your days mixed up.

lets be fair, both kieta and chalobah missed the ball and yes kieta’s leg/boot caught chalobah by accident, there was certainly no intent on kietas behalf to hurt or injure chalobah, they both had high feet towards the ball……..

but it was 3 days ago, the same as rhodris handball was 4 days ago, nothing is going to change, no matter how much moaning is done or refs apologise……
😁 Sorry about mixing the days up - to err is human and nothing to do with being bitter so stop being silly and let's keep it sensible.

I was full of praise re LFC and CFC at the weekend - great match involving 2 fine teams.

My point was that the standard of refereeing in the EPL is dreadful at times.

General consent from pundits was that Kieta should've walked. Studs up, inner thigh just below the groin (needed stitches post match) and not even a yellow. Can't imagine you not feeling like I do if the situation was reversed.

Remember the endless furore on 24 hour repeat re the Costa 'stamp' - took days for that to settle down, yet the aforementioned tackle was almost unmentioned.
 

jowwy

Not here offten enough to argue
😁 Sorry about mixing the days up - to err is human and nothing to do with being bitter so stop being silly and let's keep it sensible.

I was full of praise re LFC and CFC at the weekend - great match involving 2 fine teams.

My point was that the standard of refereeing in the EPL is dreadful at times.

General consent from pundits was that Kieta should've walked. Studs up, inner thigh just below the groin (needed stitches post match) and not even a yellow. Can't imagine you not feeling like I do if the situation was reversed.

Remember the endless furore on 24 hour repeat re the Costa 'stamp' - took days for that to settle down, yet the aforementioned tackle was almost unmentioned.
But chalobah studs were up aswell, its just he missed kieta on his follow through….i can see it both ways.

but whats the point, ive just learnt to accept it…i mean the refeering on the weekend, may lose us the title, but then city also got a dodgy peno at wolves too, so in essence they should have dropped a further 4pts, that would make us 2 behind with a game in hand, but alas it doesnt always ahppen that way and i cant change that……just have to accept it and move on.
 

SpokeyDokey

68, & my GP says I will officially be old at 70!
Moderator
But chalobah studs were up aswell, its just he missed kieta on his follow through….i can see it both ways.

but whats the point, ive just learnt to accept it…i mean the refeering on the weekend, may lose us the title, but then city also got a dodgy peno at wolves too, so in essence they should have dropped a further 4pts, that would make us 2 behind with a game in hand, but alas it doesnt always ahppen that way and i cant change that……just have to accept it and move on.

I agree re moving on but my point still stands that refereeing standards need a swift kick up the backside - too much at stake to keep getting decisions wrong. Maybe Riley is finally coming around!

If you don't agree then we'll have to agree to differ - no problem. 🙂

Best of luck to LFC re title hopes for the rest of the season. We are well and truly out of it so it remains for you to topple the mighty (light) blue machine. What a monster Pep has created!

We hope to be a lot closer next season once we work out how to deal with the low block 1 point will do teams! LFC & MUFC seem to manage it but we seem to make a meal of it. 😁
 

jowwy

Not here offten enough to argue
I agree re moving on but my point still stands that refereeing standards need a swift kick up the backside - too much at stake to keep getting decisions wrong. Maybe Riley is finally coming around!

If you don't agree then we'll have to agree to differ - no problem. 🙂

Best of luck to LFC re title hopes for the rest of the season. We are well and truly out of it so it remains for you to topple the mighty (light) blue machine. What a monster Pep has created!

We hope to be a lot closer next season once we work out how to deal with the low block 1 point will do teams! LFC & MUFC seem to manage it but we seem to make a meal of it. 😁
I agree with you in referee standards, they are shocking, but never held to account.

I think lukaku is a big issue for you, hes just not mobile enough for the football tuchel wants to play. He will score goals, but not enough and you dont have enough goals in the team to back him up either……
 

Scaleyback

Veteran
Location
North Yorkshire
Always makes me laugh when fans of English teams get upset about refereeing standards...
Can I ask why ?
 

StuAff

Silencing his legs regularly
Location
Portsmouth
Pompey have been wildly inconsistent and abject at times this season (sometimes simultaneously) but somewhat belatedly, they've hit a purple patch. After snatching a draw after being 3-0 down on Saturday, a win against Oxford tonight, 3-2, means five games unbeaten, four of them wins. The defeat in the previous match? 3-2 to Oxford!

In other news, Spurs still spursy.
 

T4tomo

Legendary Member
Are Spurs a premier league team? At least man U put up a bit of a fight:laugh::laugh:

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#UTB
 

SpokeyDokey

68, & my GP says I will officially be old at 70!
Moderator
I agree with you in referee standards, they are shocking, but never held to account.

I think lukaku is a big issue for you, hes just not mobile enough for the football tuchel wants to play. He will score goals, but not enough and you dont have enough goals in the team to back him up either……

RL is problematic for sure - he is so very static. We played more to his strengths early part of the season when we had two very fast wing backs (James and Chilwell) to service him; although to be fair they never had time to gel until injury struck the pair of them.

Up front Havertz has some real potential, Werner seems to be a lost cause, Pulisic seems injury prone and Mount is 90% of the player he was last season.

It's amazing how we are having a season that many teams can only dream of! 😁
 
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