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MarkF

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Lukaku missed a penalty to make it 3-0 and then we go and score three goals in the last twelve minutes.

He didn't "miss", he was cheated, the keeper was so far off his line it's a wonder he didn't take the penalty himself!
 

13 rider

Guru
Location
leicester
Holey Moley!!!!!!!!!!!!

West Ham, 0-2 down to Everton with fifteen minutes to go so I stop bothering to keep up to date on the Guardian website thinking that's that. Just have a peek to see what the final score was and they've only bloody well turned it round and won 3-2, all the goals in the last 12 minutes. Everton are our bogey team too.

Match of the day tonight!!!!!!!!!!
What a result for the hammers champions league in sight
Oh bye the way we are top of the league
Not pretty but a win is a win . much better second half for the foxes substitutions seemed to work
Go foxes
 

ianrauk

Tattooed Beat Messiah
Location
Rides Ti2
Winning ugly is the mark of quality. I really hope you do it.


There's a heck of a lot of us wishing the same.
 

Roadhump

Time you enjoyed wasting was not wasted
Yet again, Everton demonstrate the consistency they have developed under Roberto Martinez by yet again getting in front and controlling the game then suddenly imploding and gifting the opposition the points.

Taking nothing away from the Hammers, fair play to them, they exploited our soft centre (and flanks) very effectively, but don't get too excited about it, as I said to a Stoke fan walking away from the ground after they beat us in similar fashion at Christmas, "Anyone can come here and get 3 or 4 goals".

It happens time after time after time after time with our supposedly progressive, exciting manager. I can't see the new billionaire major shareholder at Everton tolerating such under-performance for long when he is in place. I am very much in the rapidly growing Martinez out camp now.
 

Dec66

A gentlemanly pootler, these days
Location
West Wickham
Yet again, Everton demonstrate the consistency they have developed under Roberto Martinez by yet again getting in front and controlling the game then suddenly imploding and gifting the opposition the points.

Taking nothing away from the Hammers, fair play to them, they exploited our soft centre (and flanks) very effectively, but don't get too excited about it, as I said to a Stoke fan walking away from the ground after they beat us in similar fashion at Christmas, "Anyone can come here and get 3 or 4 goals".

It happens time after time after time after time with our supposedly progressive, exciting manager. I can't see the new billionaire major shareholder at Everton tolerating such under-performance for long when he is in place. I am very much in the rapidly growing Martinez out camp now.
I don't think he was helped particularly yesterday by Kevin " Brainfart" Mirallas. He won't start a game for Everton again, nor should he.

Bringing Niasse on for Lennon with ten men and 20 mins to go was a bit odd; why not Barry or Osman?

And how much is the manager responsible for the centre backs to be unable to defend against crosses? I'm genuinely unsure on that one.
 

Inertia

I feel like I could... TAKE ON THE WORLD!!
I don't think he was helped particularly yesterday by Kevin " Brainfart" Mirallas. He won't start a game for Everton again, nor should he.

Bringing Niasse on for Lennon with ten men and 20 mins to go was a bit odd; why not Barry or Osman?

And how much is the manager responsible for the centre backs to be unable to defend against crosses? I'm genuinely unsure on that one.
He does set the training routine and all the evertonians I speak to think Everton only practice attack and not defence.
 

Roadhump

Time you enjoyed wasting was not wasted
I don't think he was helped particularly yesterday by Kevin " Brainfart" Mirallas. He won't start a game for Everton again, nor should he.

Bringing Niasse on for Lennon with ten men and 20 mins to go was a bit odd; why not Barry or Osman?

And how much is the manager responsible for the centre backs to be unable to defend against crosses? I'm genuinely unsure on that one.

I agree about Mirallas, in 3.5 years we have seen the odd flash of brilliance but that has been far too infrequent and he is clearly prone to pressing the self destruct button as he did yesterday. He also seems to have a Kevin Mirallas agenda, not a team agenda.

The link below is to an interesting analysis of the effect of putting Niasse on, it takes a different view than most fans. Despite the author backing up his opinion with factual evidence, I still disagree with him, Lennon was playing well, covering a lot of ground and was a serious threat to West Ham. Niasse doesn't know his team mates, he has no PL experience and hasn't played for about 3 months, and it showed, he looks worryingly out of his depth. A more experienced head seemed far more practical in the circumstances.

http://royalbluemersey.sbnation.com...ctical-analysis-roberto-martinez-aaron-lennon

I understand your point about the centre backs, but "individual errors" have been rife for the past 2 seasons and have cost us points aplenty, plus the frequency of our capitulations suggests that issues that could be addressed in training are not being being addressed and / or there are flaws in the team's mindset. Both those things are down to the manager it seems, and given that Wigan went down the same path under Roberto's leadership, amounting in total now to almost 6 out of 7 PL seasons of his teams under-performing I personally fear he, and hence his teams, will always be found wanting in the same ways.
 
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